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Friday, April 02, 2010
DOUG MCINTOSH: SPRAYING THE LIGHTER FLUID
Don't care much for Steve Quayle but I liked this guy since he was on Gold-Eagle.com he knows what he speaks of.
They are blowing out the economy because they are grabbing what wealth and assets they can. The collapse is intentional-we are NOT meant to survive it.
Plan accordingly...
http://stevequayle.com/News.alert/10_Money/08_Mac_Attack/100401.lighter.fluid.html
Spraying the Lighter Fluid
I have a donation based blog at www.preparingforthefuture.org. Click on the board index and go to the section called, "How to Get Doomer Doug's Password" for contact info. I have also posted a sample of my blog writing there.
April 1, 2010
Doug McIntosh
© SteveQuayle.com
Much of the media shill hysteria over "green shoots" and "economic recovery" may be explained by a simple understanding of what happens during a summer barbecue. The old fashioned American kind, with the charcoal briquettes, the lighter fluid and the surge of flame 8 feet into the air. The surge is 12 feet if the beer has been flowing freely I might add. What that criminal blob called the Federal Reserve has done the last 18 months or so, since October 2008 in the second spurt, has been to hose down the economy with the lighter fluid of low interest rates. It's true Mr. Magoo didn't spray lighter fluid on the briquettes back in 2001, so much as he poured a five gallon can of gasoline on them; with predictable results. Mr. Magoo, Alan Greenspan for those of you with short attention spans, created several bubbles that way. Ones he forgot to mention in his recently released memoirs, like the real estate bubble for instance. Mr. Magoo, after doing his best "who me?" routine has hidden from public view even more than Mr. Global Warming himself, Al Gore, in recent months. Last I heard, Mr. Magoo was in Dubai trying to enjoy his leisure time building sand castles, the real ones versus the ones he built into our economy during his 20 year reign of economic terror.
But I digress, although Mr. Magoo was much more fun to abuse than our current Fed clown in chief Braying Bernie. Braying Bernie reminds me of the Disney movie "Fantasia" where Mickey Mouse, the apprentice, can't figure out how to stop the brooms and water buckets. Braying Bernie strikes me as a guy who really has no idea of what to do, but likes the trappings of power so much he wanted a second term. Fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice shame on me. Considering the truly vast amounts of lighter fluid being poured on both the American and global economies, there should be more of an impact. Besides the Federal Reserve squirting lighter fluid on our economy, we have that whole stimulus thang a ma jig passed in the Spring of 2009. As I have discussed before, the main point of the Federal Stimulus program was not to stimulate the economy, it was to keep state, county and city governments from collapsing in the summer of 2009.
If the goals are understood, then I can help explain why the system didn't crash in the summer of 2009. The reason was between the Federal Reserve, and our esteemed Fuhrer's Stimulus program, just enough money was put out there to prevent a total collapse. Of course, if the true point was to stimulate the economy, they could have spent 2 Trillion dollars rebuilding bridges and railway lines, or even giving every taxpayer a check for $10,000, or things of that kind. Since actually stimulating the economy, or helping the middle class wasn't the point, they did nothing of the kind. The whole point of the stimulus program was to buy time for the Federales. Time to complete the raping and pillaging of the middle class by Wall Street and the Banksters; time to allow our esteemed fuhrer Obama the First to impose his Marxist dictatorship and finally, time to prepare for the looming social anarchy and let the New World Order use that chaos to its best advantage. I have said it before and I will say it again, the NWO, for some strange reason, actually thinks it can surf the chaos it is allowing to happen. Why they think they can ride the tiger without getting mauled is one of those things I simply do not understand. It may be stupidity, or it may be arrogance, or they may simply not understand the forces they are dealing with, but whatever the case, the NWO is going to be mighty surprised when the populist backlash explodes.
It is clear to me the whole point of both the Federal Reserve's actions and the so called Stimulus programs were merely to buy time. It was to put off the collapse for another few months or years. Personally, I think they have bought themselves about 2 years, assuming the start time is the first bailout in October, 2008. I think things will really start to fall apart around Labor Day 2010. It is also very clear to me the unemployment extensions, food stamp increases, health care funding were solely designed to keep things together enough to make it through the summer months of 2009. For instance, the only reason California didn't crash and burn last August was federal stimulus money gave it just enough of a lifeline to avoid economic death. It is like one of those old movies with the diver in the helmet and the hose. The hose has not been cut off yet, but it is getting kinked and the air flow is being reduced. A good metaphor if I have ever heard one. We are in the early stages of oxygen deprivation, not quite unconscious yet, but starting to get blurry in our thinking. Credit and debt, like air to the diver, is the lifeblood of our economy. Despite the Fed's .25 interest rate, the banks aren't actually loaning money or creating any new debt; instead, they are using it to prop up their horrible balance sheets. Balance sheets, no matter how bad they look, are still much, much worse due to the whole mark to market accounting fraud. The entire US banking system is insolvent and has been insolvent for the last 18 months at least. When you have the FDIC forcing banks to prepay their 2012 fees, you can understand what I am talking about. Even with the FDIC now directly relying upon the US Treasury for bailout money, it still won't be enough to deal with the thousands of insolvent banks. Any money the Fed creates, or the US Treasury issues as bonds, is either being stashed in bank vaults or being vaporized down a black hole of endless debt problems. The US economy is about 11 Trillion a year in GDP. The losses in residential and commercial real estate alone equal that. Braying Bernie is pouring his money into a sink with the stopper out. Whatever he creates, or Turbo Timmy creates in US debt, simply vanishes into a black hole never to be seen again in any productive economic sense. Any money the banks have is not loaned out again, but hoarded against present and future debt losses.
Finally, we are now in a situation where the lighter fluid is gone, the charcoal is almost turned to ash and nothing has been cooked. A cookout without any steaks being cooked isn't much of a cookout in my book. Obama is running 1.5 TRILLION yearly federal deficits. The foreigners are no longer buying our US Treasury Bonds; indeed, are starting to dump them. The Federal Reserve is buying up Federal debt itself like a dog eating its own vomit. It is clear to anyone with an IQ above the single digits this is a policy which has no future. The only issue is when, not if, but when the game ends. My guess is around September 30th, when the announcement of fiscal 2010's 1.5 Trillion dollar deficit, as well as the expected 1.5 Trillion dollar fiscal 2011 deficit is made. At that point, two questions will be asked: first, where's the steak and second, where's the money for the third 1.5 Trillion deficit in a row coming from? I should add the current federal debt is 12.6 Trillion. It should be close to 13.5 Trillion by September, 2010, with expectations of closing in on 15 Trillion by September 30th, 2011. We are then looking at GDP to federal debt ratios of between 100% to 125%. We are also looking at deficit to GDP ratios of over 10%, just like Greece for instance. The EU requires a deficit to GDP ratio of 3%, so the USA is well over that right now. We shall have to deal with the consequences soon enough.
All links to this article must include link to www.stevequayle.com/
Copyright reserved
They are blowing out the economy because they are grabbing what wealth and assets they can. The collapse is intentional-we are NOT meant to survive it.
Plan accordingly...
http://stevequayle.com/News.alert/10_Money/08_Mac_Attack/100401.lighter.fluid.html
Spraying the Lighter Fluid
I have a donation based blog at www.preparingforthefuture.org. Click on the board index and go to the section called, "How to Get Doomer Doug's Password" for contact info. I have also posted a sample of my blog writing there.
April 1, 2010
Doug McIntosh
© SteveQuayle.com
Much of the media shill hysteria over "green shoots" and "economic recovery" may be explained by a simple understanding of what happens during a summer barbecue. The old fashioned American kind, with the charcoal briquettes, the lighter fluid and the surge of flame 8 feet into the air. The surge is 12 feet if the beer has been flowing freely I might add. What that criminal blob called the Federal Reserve has done the last 18 months or so, since October 2008 in the second spurt, has been to hose down the economy with the lighter fluid of low interest rates. It's true Mr. Magoo didn't spray lighter fluid on the briquettes back in 2001, so much as he poured a five gallon can of gasoline on them; with predictable results. Mr. Magoo, Alan Greenspan for those of you with short attention spans, created several bubbles that way. Ones he forgot to mention in his recently released memoirs, like the real estate bubble for instance. Mr. Magoo, after doing his best "who me?" routine has hidden from public view even more than Mr. Global Warming himself, Al Gore, in recent months. Last I heard, Mr. Magoo was in Dubai trying to enjoy his leisure time building sand castles, the real ones versus the ones he built into our economy during his 20 year reign of economic terror.
But I digress, although Mr. Magoo was much more fun to abuse than our current Fed clown in chief Braying Bernie. Braying Bernie reminds me of the Disney movie "Fantasia" where Mickey Mouse, the apprentice, can't figure out how to stop the brooms and water buckets. Braying Bernie strikes me as a guy who really has no idea of what to do, but likes the trappings of power so much he wanted a second term. Fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice shame on me. Considering the truly vast amounts of lighter fluid being poured on both the American and global economies, there should be more of an impact. Besides the Federal Reserve squirting lighter fluid on our economy, we have that whole stimulus thang a ma jig passed in the Spring of 2009. As I have discussed before, the main point of the Federal Stimulus program was not to stimulate the economy, it was to keep state, county and city governments from collapsing in the summer of 2009.
If the goals are understood, then I can help explain why the system didn't crash in the summer of 2009. The reason was between the Federal Reserve, and our esteemed Fuhrer's Stimulus program, just enough money was put out there to prevent a total collapse. Of course, if the true point was to stimulate the economy, they could have spent 2 Trillion dollars rebuilding bridges and railway lines, or even giving every taxpayer a check for $10,000, or things of that kind. Since actually stimulating the economy, or helping the middle class wasn't the point, they did nothing of the kind. The whole point of the stimulus program was to buy time for the Federales. Time to complete the raping and pillaging of the middle class by Wall Street and the Banksters; time to allow our esteemed fuhrer Obama the First to impose his Marxist dictatorship and finally, time to prepare for the looming social anarchy and let the New World Order use that chaos to its best advantage. I have said it before and I will say it again, the NWO, for some strange reason, actually thinks it can surf the chaos it is allowing to happen. Why they think they can ride the tiger without getting mauled is one of those things I simply do not understand. It may be stupidity, or it may be arrogance, or they may simply not understand the forces they are dealing with, but whatever the case, the NWO is going to be mighty surprised when the populist backlash explodes.
It is clear to me the whole point of both the Federal Reserve's actions and the so called Stimulus programs were merely to buy time. It was to put off the collapse for another few months or years. Personally, I think they have bought themselves about 2 years, assuming the start time is the first bailout in October, 2008. I think things will really start to fall apart around Labor Day 2010. It is also very clear to me the unemployment extensions, food stamp increases, health care funding were solely designed to keep things together enough to make it through the summer months of 2009. For instance, the only reason California didn't crash and burn last August was federal stimulus money gave it just enough of a lifeline to avoid economic death. It is like one of those old movies with the diver in the helmet and the hose. The hose has not been cut off yet, but it is getting kinked and the air flow is being reduced. A good metaphor if I have ever heard one. We are in the early stages of oxygen deprivation, not quite unconscious yet, but starting to get blurry in our thinking. Credit and debt, like air to the diver, is the lifeblood of our economy. Despite the Fed's .25 interest rate, the banks aren't actually loaning money or creating any new debt; instead, they are using it to prop up their horrible balance sheets. Balance sheets, no matter how bad they look, are still much, much worse due to the whole mark to market accounting fraud. The entire US banking system is insolvent and has been insolvent for the last 18 months at least. When you have the FDIC forcing banks to prepay their 2012 fees, you can understand what I am talking about. Even with the FDIC now directly relying upon the US Treasury for bailout money, it still won't be enough to deal with the thousands of insolvent banks. Any money the Fed creates, or the US Treasury issues as bonds, is either being stashed in bank vaults or being vaporized down a black hole of endless debt problems. The US economy is about 11 Trillion a year in GDP. The losses in residential and commercial real estate alone equal that. Braying Bernie is pouring his money into a sink with the stopper out. Whatever he creates, or Turbo Timmy creates in US debt, simply vanishes into a black hole never to be seen again in any productive economic sense. Any money the banks have is not loaned out again, but hoarded against present and future debt losses.
Finally, we are now in a situation where the lighter fluid is gone, the charcoal is almost turned to ash and nothing has been cooked. A cookout without any steaks being cooked isn't much of a cookout in my book. Obama is running 1.5 TRILLION yearly federal deficits. The foreigners are no longer buying our US Treasury Bonds; indeed, are starting to dump them. The Federal Reserve is buying up Federal debt itself like a dog eating its own vomit. It is clear to anyone with an IQ above the single digits this is a policy which has no future. The only issue is when, not if, but when the game ends. My guess is around September 30th, when the announcement of fiscal 2010's 1.5 Trillion dollar deficit, as well as the expected 1.5 Trillion dollar fiscal 2011 deficit is made. At that point, two questions will be asked: first, where's the steak and second, where's the money for the third 1.5 Trillion deficit in a row coming from? I should add the current federal debt is 12.6 Trillion. It should be close to 13.5 Trillion by September, 2010, with expectations of closing in on 15 Trillion by September 30th, 2011. We are then looking at GDP to federal debt ratios of between 100% to 125%. We are also looking at deficit to GDP ratios of over 10%, just like Greece for instance. The EU requires a deficit to GDP ratio of 3%, so the USA is well over that right now. We shall have to deal with the consequences soon enough.
All links to this article must include link to www.stevequayle.com/
Copyright reserved
NEW SLOGAN: WE ARE EVERYWHERE
Sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com has a new propaganda plan for you to implement:
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/04/we-are-everywhere-call-for-all-sons-of.html
"We are everywhere." -- A call for all Sons of Liberty and Three Percenters who can to join the IRS plus a little task for those who can't .
In talking to a reporter yesterday I was asked, "Well, what are you going to do for an encore (to the Window War)?"
I assured him that I did not think the Window War was quite finished, and that it would revive with the attempts to "cram down" the global warming and amnesty bills in the coming months. Indeed, I can foresee that if any GOPer treats with the declared enemies of the Founders' Republic on these issues, the windows of BOTH parties will be broken, just as I posited in my short story The Window War, so many years ago.
"But is that it? Is that all?" he asked.
I merely smiled.
I didn't tell him, but, no. That is not all.
From the film Michael Collins, 1993:
Michael Collins to Royal Irish Constabulary "G Man" Ned Broy: What's this? What's all this? You've been on my heels for weeks. Very eager for a G man.
Broy: I've something for you. (Reaching inside his coat.)
Collins: Don't! (Sticking a revolver in Broy's neck.)
Broy: (Unfazed.) Don't you ever calm down? (Hands Collins a piece of paper.) Names and addresses of the whole cabinet. They're to be lifted tonight. It's an illegal gathering... in open defiance of His Majesty's government.
Collins: How'd you get this?
Broy: Like you said, I'm eager, for a G man.
Collins: Why should I trust you?
Broy: Logically, I suppose you shouldn't. But I've been on your heels for weeks... making notes of your speeches. Let's just say that you can be persuasive.
Collins: You work for the Castle for Christ's sake..
Broy: I know. What was it you said... "Our only weapon is our refusal".
Well, as my Michigan grandma once told me, when life hands you lemons, make lemonade.
Nancy Pelosi has given us a great opportunity in the new "Health Care" Law. She's hiring some 16,000 plus new Internal Revenue agents to enforce her tyranny. So, why can't some of those be Three Percenters? I mean, there's a bunch of us out of work, yet we have clean records and skills that would dovetail nicely with those required of an IRS agent. Hey, we would also have the advantage of actually meaning it when they swear us in -- you know, that oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
Indeed, while the private sector is shrinking, government at most levels is still growing, so the IRS is not the only agency that could benefit from dozens, hundreds, thousands of Ned Broy's.
Sweet lemonade indeed.
Thanks a bunch, Nancy!
So sign up today! Our Dear Leader needs you to enforce the "Health Care" Act! Join. Learn. Lurk in the shadows, and await the right time and place to muck up the works. And you don't need a Michael Collins to report to. We have the Internet. Study Fourth Generation Warfare and open source insurgency at John Robb's Global Guerrillas site and others. Begin today. Leave no trace. Shut up about your politics. At the very least, we will cause the IRS to waste vast amounts of time and money trying to ferret out our Ned Broy's during the selection process. And if you make it through, study, watch and wait.
I can see whole reams of internal documents posted anonymously to the web, raids compromised with no one there when the door lock is blown in by those new 14 inch barrel entry shotguns. I can see an entire agency in a blue funk, eating at its own vitals.
Oh yes, join now, without delay.
And for those of you who cannot do this, I have this task which is the best force multiplier suggestion I can think of.
Today, we must begin a new campaign: We Are Everywhere.
For we are, you know. Our Socialist Mandarin masters like Nancy Pelosi rub elbows with us everyday, though they do not know it.
We carry their mail and packages.
We check out their groceries.
We clean out their drains, fix their wiring, install their alarm systems and hand them their lattes at Starbucks.
We ARE everywhere.
Everywhere.
They do not know this. It never enters their minds. Even if they knew it, they wouldn't care. We have no opinions, they believe, that they are bound to respect. In truth, they despise us. You can tell that by the sneering names they call us and by the arrogance with which they corruptly arrange tyrannical laws.
But they do not know that we are everywhere, passing through, or working in, their offices, their side businesses, their homes.
It is time to remind them.
Send them the message: We are everywhere.
There is no need to explain further. The message is the message.
So send them the message.
By little notes left in their morning papers.
By email, fax and letter.
By phone call.
It is no threat. "We are everywhere." Who is "we"? What do we mean "everywhere"? The message is the message. Nothing more is required. I suppose if you wanted to put a "III" on it, that would be okay, but keep it simple, keep it effective. The message is the message, and I can just see Eric Holder and his boys scratching their heads, trying to make a case out of three little words that by themselves threaten nobody.
Scrawl it in felt-tip pen on the restroom walls of federal buildings.
Leave it in the lockers at the athletic clubs they frequent.
Print it on stickers and slap them on the bumpers of their cars.
We are everywhere.
Paint it on sidewalks wherever it suits your fancy.
Put it on billboards for everyone to see.
We are everywhere.
Especially -- soon, thanks to Nancy Pelosi -- within the vitals of the Internal Revenue Service.
We are everywhere.
If you agree with this idea, pass it on. Let it go viral.
We are everywhere, Nancy.
Deal with it.
Mike Vanderboegh
The alleged leader of a merry band of Three Percenters.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com
PS: Oh, and thanks in advance for employing some of us.
PPSS: Threepers, I especially draw your attention to these guys: http://www.treas.gov/tigta/careers.shtml. TIGTA is like the "Internal Affairs" of IRS. Ought to be some great openings for Three Percenters there. Go for it!
"And remember, lads, find out what they eat for breakfast."
LATER: Carl Bussjaeger sends this design, done in a few easy strokes.
http://www.bussjaeger.org/
We Are Everywhere
III
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/04/we-are-everywhere-call-for-all-sons-of.html
"We are everywhere." -- A call for all Sons of Liberty and Three Percenters who can to join the IRS plus a little task for those who can't .
In talking to a reporter yesterday I was asked, "Well, what are you going to do for an encore (to the Window War)?"
I assured him that I did not think the Window War was quite finished, and that it would revive with the attempts to "cram down" the global warming and amnesty bills in the coming months. Indeed, I can foresee that if any GOPer treats with the declared enemies of the Founders' Republic on these issues, the windows of BOTH parties will be broken, just as I posited in my short story The Window War, so many years ago.
"But is that it? Is that all?" he asked.
I merely smiled.
I didn't tell him, but, no. That is not all.
From the film Michael Collins, 1993:
Michael Collins to Royal Irish Constabulary "G Man" Ned Broy: What's this? What's all this? You've been on my heels for weeks. Very eager for a G man.
Broy: I've something for you. (Reaching inside his coat.)
Collins: Don't! (Sticking a revolver in Broy's neck.)
Broy: (Unfazed.) Don't you ever calm down? (Hands Collins a piece of paper.) Names and addresses of the whole cabinet. They're to be lifted tonight. It's an illegal gathering... in open defiance of His Majesty's government.
Collins: How'd you get this?
Broy: Like you said, I'm eager, for a G man.
Collins: Why should I trust you?
Broy: Logically, I suppose you shouldn't. But I've been on your heels for weeks... making notes of your speeches. Let's just say that you can be persuasive.
Collins: You work for the Castle for Christ's sake..
Broy: I know. What was it you said... "Our only weapon is our refusal".
Well, as my Michigan grandma once told me, when life hands you lemons, make lemonade.
Nancy Pelosi has given us a great opportunity in the new "Health Care" Law. She's hiring some 16,000 plus new Internal Revenue agents to enforce her tyranny. So, why can't some of those be Three Percenters? I mean, there's a bunch of us out of work, yet we have clean records and skills that would dovetail nicely with those required of an IRS agent. Hey, we would also have the advantage of actually meaning it when they swear us in -- you know, that oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
Indeed, while the private sector is shrinking, government at most levels is still growing, so the IRS is not the only agency that could benefit from dozens, hundreds, thousands of Ned Broy's.
Sweet lemonade indeed.
Thanks a bunch, Nancy!
So sign up today! Our Dear Leader needs you to enforce the "Health Care" Act! Join. Learn. Lurk in the shadows, and await the right time and place to muck up the works. And you don't need a Michael Collins to report to. We have the Internet. Study Fourth Generation Warfare and open source insurgency at John Robb's Global Guerrillas site and others. Begin today. Leave no trace. Shut up about your politics. At the very least, we will cause the IRS to waste vast amounts of time and money trying to ferret out our Ned Broy's during the selection process. And if you make it through, study, watch and wait.
I can see whole reams of internal documents posted anonymously to the web, raids compromised with no one there when the door lock is blown in by those new 14 inch barrel entry shotguns. I can see an entire agency in a blue funk, eating at its own vitals.
Oh yes, join now, without delay.
And for those of you who cannot do this, I have this task which is the best force multiplier suggestion I can think of.
Today, we must begin a new campaign: We Are Everywhere.
For we are, you know. Our Socialist Mandarin masters like Nancy Pelosi rub elbows with us everyday, though they do not know it.
We carry their mail and packages.
We check out their groceries.
We clean out their drains, fix their wiring, install their alarm systems and hand them their lattes at Starbucks.
We ARE everywhere.
Everywhere.
They do not know this. It never enters their minds. Even if they knew it, they wouldn't care. We have no opinions, they believe, that they are bound to respect. In truth, they despise us. You can tell that by the sneering names they call us and by the arrogance with which they corruptly arrange tyrannical laws.
But they do not know that we are everywhere, passing through, or working in, their offices, their side businesses, their homes.
It is time to remind them.
Send them the message: We are everywhere.
There is no need to explain further. The message is the message.
So send them the message.
By little notes left in their morning papers.
By email, fax and letter.
By phone call.
It is no threat. "We are everywhere." Who is "we"? What do we mean "everywhere"? The message is the message. Nothing more is required. I suppose if you wanted to put a "III" on it, that would be okay, but keep it simple, keep it effective. The message is the message, and I can just see Eric Holder and his boys scratching their heads, trying to make a case out of three little words that by themselves threaten nobody.
Scrawl it in felt-tip pen on the restroom walls of federal buildings.
Leave it in the lockers at the athletic clubs they frequent.
Print it on stickers and slap them on the bumpers of their cars.
We are everywhere.
Paint it on sidewalks wherever it suits your fancy.
Put it on billboards for everyone to see.
We are everywhere.
Especially -- soon, thanks to Nancy Pelosi -- within the vitals of the Internal Revenue Service.
We are everywhere.
If you agree with this idea, pass it on. Let it go viral.
We are everywhere, Nancy.
Deal with it.
Mike Vanderboegh
The alleged leader of a merry band of Three Percenters.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com
PS: Oh, and thanks in advance for employing some of us.
PPSS: Threepers, I especially draw your attention to these guys: http://www.treas.gov/tigta/careers.shtml. TIGTA is like the "Internal Affairs" of IRS. Ought to be some great openings for Three Percenters there. Go for it!
"And remember, lads, find out what they eat for breakfast."
LATER: Carl Bussjaeger sends this design, done in a few easy strokes.
http://www.bussjaeger.org/
We Are Everywhere
III
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
SIPSEYSTREETIRREGULARS ON THE HUTAREE RAID
No comment from me needed Mike Vanderboegh nailed the truth of this clusterfuck...
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/03/hutaree-raid-extremely-well-executed.html
Hutaree Raid: An extremely well-executed federal operation aimed at the threat represented by the revitalized militia & Oath Keepers.
As a powerful political counter-stroke it was masterful. You have to give them credit. Putting a provocateur into a group of not-very-well wrapped Millennialists (see Churchill, To Shake Their Guns in the Tyrants Face) and assisting them to:
a. build and distribute pipe bombs and
b. talk about plots to kill cops that involve killing innocents, family members, etc.,
was well thought out, perfectly targeted, craftily planned, brilliantly executed and impeccably timed.
I realized this when I was outside talking to the three cops who showed up at my door to collect the birdshit Easter card. To begin with, the phone rang. Would I please meet the officer outside? Sure.
So I walked out in my shirtsleeves, thinking I would simply hand the guy (remember, I had been told they would send one officer) the ziplock bag, fill out a report, and then could go turn in after a very exhausting day.
I wasn't even off the porch before I understood something very different was going on here. Three deputies, not one. Spread out, hands on weapons, bright light in my face, commanding me to come to them. It was so ludicrous I laughed and said, "What? You want me to put my hands in the air?"
They didn't but they weren't laughing either.
Look, I told them, I just called you guys because that's what the Coroner's Office told me to do. They were tense as hell. Two of them knew me from local Pinson events, political and otherwise. The other, the one with the least experience, was the most obviously nervous and he's the one who approached from the side always training the light in my eyes.
So, after I get them calmed down and explain what is going on, it becomes obvious that they are concerned that I am a maddog militiaman. The Hutaree business was fresh in their minds. "Christian militia." "Kill cops at the funeral."
They're "militia." I'm "militia." I actually think they expected me to defend the assholes. As we had some time before the fire department trucks got there (and then they decided they weren't equipped to handle the situation so they asked for HAZMAT backup), I started talking about the many death threats I have had over the years and about my belief that it is better to be despised by the despicable than admired by the admirable. We talked about death threats in 90s, and my ever expanding list of enemies. I told them about how the FBI had been letting certain neoNazi terrorists run free back then, and how we -- the constitutional militia -- embarrassed them finally into arresting the pukes. I told them how we worked with state and local law enforcement to prevent racist-terrorist initiated clouds of pink mist here and across the country.
They just kept coming back to the Hutaree.
And it wasn't, I sensed, merely because it had just happened. The details of the thing as reported in the media and passed along by "cop telegraph" -- based entirely on the word of a federal provacateur at this point -- had seized their imaginations. "Christian Militia." "Assassinating a police officer." "Mass killing of cops' families at a funeral." "At a FUNERAL."
"Militiaman" = "Cop killer" As obvious as two plus two.
For the Imperial Feds, this was a propaganda coup of the tenth order of magnitude.
For this wasn't really about the Hutaree. It was about the revitalized constitutional militia movement and Oath Keepers. It may not have started out to be, when they began their operation against the Hutaree back in 2008, but at some point along the line, I'll bet, somebody saw the opportunity and took it.
Based upon the nervousness, fear and hatred of the Feds for Oath Keepers (as evidenced by the number and frequency of their verbal attacks on it), we knew that at some point they were going to feel compelled to get serious about dealing with the threat OK posed to their strategic certainty. (That is, "if I issue this tyrannical order, will these people carry it out -- or turn on me?")
Gentlemen and ladies, you just witnessed the seriousness of their intent to discredit Oath Keepers. The Hutaree meme strikes at the seam between the military and police who are attracted by the Oath Keepers' simple message, and the armed citizenry who are their natural allies in supporting and defending the Constitution and in the maintenance of order in society as a whole.
The Hutaree, apparently useful idiots to a man, may indeed not be guilty of what they are charged. It does not matter. Even if all the charges are later expoosed to be the fevered imaginings of snitches and provocateurs (and I don't think they will be), the Feds have reaped an incalculable benefit from the exercise.
They have, in the minds of every cop in America, equated the word "militia" with the word "cop killer."
From now on, every cop will approach us with that in mind. Every conversation about militia will have to deal with the Hutaree first. The Feds have put us all on the ideological defensive. The fact that it enunciates a lie does not matter. People will "know" from now on that all militiamen and women are copkillers.
Brilliant. You must give them credit. It was brilliant.
More on this subject later.
Mike
III
And you can keep up on the gossip here: http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=26;t=000139
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/03/hutaree-raid-extremely-well-executed.html
Hutaree Raid: An extremely well-executed federal operation aimed at the threat represented by the revitalized militia & Oath Keepers.
As a powerful political counter-stroke it was masterful. You have to give them credit. Putting a provocateur into a group of not-very-well wrapped Millennialists (see Churchill, To Shake Their Guns in the Tyrants Face) and assisting them to:
a. build and distribute pipe bombs and
b. talk about plots to kill cops that involve killing innocents, family members, etc.,
was well thought out, perfectly targeted, craftily planned, brilliantly executed and impeccably timed.
I realized this when I was outside talking to the three cops who showed up at my door to collect the birdshit Easter card. To begin with, the phone rang. Would I please meet the officer outside? Sure.
So I walked out in my shirtsleeves, thinking I would simply hand the guy (remember, I had been told they would send one officer) the ziplock bag, fill out a report, and then could go turn in after a very exhausting day.
I wasn't even off the porch before I understood something very different was going on here. Three deputies, not one. Spread out, hands on weapons, bright light in my face, commanding me to come to them. It was so ludicrous I laughed and said, "What? You want me to put my hands in the air?"
They didn't but they weren't laughing either.
Look, I told them, I just called you guys because that's what the Coroner's Office told me to do. They were tense as hell. Two of them knew me from local Pinson events, political and otherwise. The other, the one with the least experience, was the most obviously nervous and he's the one who approached from the side always training the light in my eyes.
So, after I get them calmed down and explain what is going on, it becomes obvious that they are concerned that I am a maddog militiaman. The Hutaree business was fresh in their minds. "Christian militia." "Kill cops at the funeral."
They're "militia." I'm "militia." I actually think they expected me to defend the assholes. As we had some time before the fire department trucks got there (and then they decided they weren't equipped to handle the situation so they asked for HAZMAT backup), I started talking about the many death threats I have had over the years and about my belief that it is better to be despised by the despicable than admired by the admirable. We talked about death threats in 90s, and my ever expanding list of enemies. I told them about how the FBI had been letting certain neoNazi terrorists run free back then, and how we -- the constitutional militia -- embarrassed them finally into arresting the pukes. I told them how we worked with state and local law enforcement to prevent racist-terrorist initiated clouds of pink mist here and across the country.
They just kept coming back to the Hutaree.
And it wasn't, I sensed, merely because it had just happened. The details of the thing as reported in the media and passed along by "cop telegraph" -- based entirely on the word of a federal provacateur at this point -- had seized their imaginations. "Christian Militia." "Assassinating a police officer." "Mass killing of cops' families at a funeral." "At a FUNERAL."
"Militiaman" = "Cop killer" As obvious as two plus two.
For the Imperial Feds, this was a propaganda coup of the tenth order of magnitude.
For this wasn't really about the Hutaree. It was about the revitalized constitutional militia movement and Oath Keepers. It may not have started out to be, when they began their operation against the Hutaree back in 2008, but at some point along the line, I'll bet, somebody saw the opportunity and took it.
Based upon the nervousness, fear and hatred of the Feds for Oath Keepers (as evidenced by the number and frequency of their verbal attacks on it), we knew that at some point they were going to feel compelled to get serious about dealing with the threat OK posed to their strategic certainty. (That is, "if I issue this tyrannical order, will these people carry it out -- or turn on me?")
Gentlemen and ladies, you just witnessed the seriousness of their intent to discredit Oath Keepers. The Hutaree meme strikes at the seam between the military and police who are attracted by the Oath Keepers' simple message, and the armed citizenry who are their natural allies in supporting and defending the Constitution and in the maintenance of order in society as a whole.
The Hutaree, apparently useful idiots to a man, may indeed not be guilty of what they are charged. It does not matter. Even if all the charges are later expoosed to be the fevered imaginings of snitches and provocateurs (and I don't think they will be), the Feds have reaped an incalculable benefit from the exercise.
They have, in the minds of every cop in America, equated the word "militia" with the word "cop killer."
From now on, every cop will approach us with that in mind. Every conversation about militia will have to deal with the Hutaree first. The Feds have put us all on the ideological defensive. The fact that it enunciates a lie does not matter. People will "know" from now on that all militiamen and women are copkillers.
Brilliant. You must give them credit. It was brilliant.
More on this subject later.
Mike
III
And you can keep up on the gossip here: http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=26;t=000139
WHY WE LOST THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN: AFGHAN COPS THAT CAN'T SHOOT, BUT CAN EXTORT
Don't be too impressed with the keystone coppers below who were supposed to relieve our misdeployed troops working on a decade of chasing Taliban; their weapons aren't even zeroed and they couldn't hit the side of a barn. Worse, they supply most of the arms to the Taliban who can't wait for us to get kicked out of Afghanistan's poppy fields so they can get back to stoning burka'd women for begging for bread.
Even the contractors fight among themselves. And an 8 week training cycle? God in Heaven but do they suck-the contractors are the oath traitors who will be coming for our guns and our Freedom when they're given the green light. Take heart...
The drug dealing US Govt's strategy of Afghaning the war in their own country was doomed from the start.
Full article below:
Afghani police use a rifle training course in Kabul as a DynCorp employee looks on
By T. Christian Miller, Mark Hosenball, and Ron Moreau NEWSWEEK
Published Mar 19, 2010
Mohammad Moqim watches in despair as his men struggle with their AK-47 automatic rifles, doing their best to hit man-size targets 50 meters away. A few of the police trainees lying prone in the mud are decent shots, but the rest shoot clumsily, and fumble as they try to reload their weapons. The Afghan National Police (ANP) captain sighs as he dismisses one group of trainees and orders 25 more to take their places on the firing line. "We are still at zero," says Captain Moqim, 35, an eight-year veteran of the force. "They don't listen, are undisciplined, and will never be real policemen."
Poor marksmanship is the least of it. Worse, crooked Afghan cops supply much of the ammunition used by the Taliban, according to Saleh Mohammed, an insurgent commander in Helmand province. The bullets and rocket-propelled grenades sold by the cops are cheaper and of better quality than the ammo at local markets, he says. It's easy for local cops to concoct credible excuses for using so much ammunition, especially because their supervisors try to avoid areas where the Taliban are active. Mohammed says local police sometimes even stage fake firefights so that if higher-ups question their outsize orders for ammo, villagers will say they've heard fighting.
PHOTOS
In Taliban Country
The story of the Taliban's fall and rise, in their own words.
America has spent more than $6 billion since 2002 in an effort to create an effective Afghan police force, buying weapons, building police academies, and hiring defense contractors to train the recruits—but the program has been a disaster. More than $322 million worth of invoices for police training were approved even though the funds were poorly accounted for, according to a government audit, and fewer than 12 percent of the country's police units are capable of operating on their own. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, the State Department's top representative in the region, has publicly called the Afghan police "an inadequate organization, riddled with corruption." During the Obama administration's review of Afghanistan policy last year, "this issue received more attention than any other except for the question of U.S. troop levels," Holbrooke later told NEWSWEEK. "We drilled down deep into this."
The worst of it is that the police are central to Washington's plans for getting out of Afghanistan. The U.S.-backed government in Kabul will never have popular support if it can't keep people safe in their own homes and streets. Yet in a United Nations poll last fall, more than half the Afghan respondents said the police are corrupt. Police commanders have been implicated in drug trafficking, and when U.S. Marines moved into the town of Aynak last summer, villagers accused the local police force of extortion, assault, and rape.
The public's distrust of the cops is palpable in the former insurgent stronghold of Marja. Village elders welcomed the U.S. Marines who recently drove out the Taliban, but told the Americans flatly they don't want the ANP to return. "The people of Marja will tell you that one of their greatest fears was the police coming back," says Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, who took over in November as chief of the U.S. program to expand and improve Afghanistan's security forces. "You constantly hear these stories about who was worse: the Afghan police that were there or the Taliban." The success of America's counterinsurgency strategy depends on the cops, who have greater contact with local communities than the Army does. "This is not about seizing land or holding terrain; it's about the people," says Caldwell. "You have to have a police force that the people accept, believe in, and trust."
More than a year after Barack Obama took office, the president is still discovering how bad things are. At a March 12 briefing on Afghanistan with his senior advisers, he asked whether the police will be ready when America's scheduled drawdown begins in July 2011, according to a senior official who was in the room. "It's inconceivable, but in fact for eight years we weren't training the police," replied Caldwell, taking part in the meeting via video link from Afghanistan. "We just never trained them before. All we did was give them a uniform." The president looked stunned. "Eight years," he said. "And we didn't train police? It's mind-boggling." The room was silent.
Efforts to build a post-Taliban police force have been plagued from the start by unrealistic goals, poor oversight, and slapdash hiring. Patrolmen were recruited locally, issued weapons, and placed on the beat with little or no formal training. Most of their techniques have been picked up on the job—including plenty of ugly habits. Even now, Caldwell says, barely a quarter of the 98,000-member force has received any formal instruction. The people who oversaw much of the training that did take place were contractors—many of them former American cops or sheriffs. They themselves had little proper direction, and the government officials overseeing their activities did not bother to examine most expenses under $3,000, leaving room for abuse. Amazingly, no single agency or individual ever had control of the training program for long, so lines of accountability were blurred.
Coalition efforts to build an Afghan police force were painfully slow at first. By 2003 the U.S. State Department decided to speed things up by deploying the Virginia-based defense contractor DynCorp International, which had held previous contracts to train police officers in Kosovo and Haiti. The company began setting up a string of training centers across the country. After the Defense Department took a role in overseeing that work in 2005, it squabbled constantly with State over whether the training should emphasize police work or counterinsurgency.
Neither the State Department nor DynCorp was prepared for the job they faced. Most of the recruits are rural villagers who have never been inside a classroom. Roughly 15 percent test positive for drugs, primarily hashish. Few know how to use a toothbrush or drive, and nearly 90 percent are illiterate. In 2005 DynCorp opened a new police academy on the outskirts of Jalalabad, and within a few months the academy's drains backed up. Maintenance workers discovered that the septic tanks were full of smooth stones—a toilet-paper substitute used by many rural Afghans. DynCorp had to bring in backhoes to repair the problem, and the company had to add two days of classes in basic hygiene.
The ANP still takes just about anyone who applies. "Our recruits are unemployed youth with no education and no prospects," says Police Col. Mohammad Hashim Babakarkhil, deputy commander of Kabul's central police-training center. Since January 2007, upwards of 2,000 police have been killed in action—more than twice the figure for Afghan Army soldiers. U.S. officers say as many as half the police casualties were a result of firearms accidents and traffic collisions.
It's practically impossible to produce competent police officers in a program of only eight weeks, says a former senior DynCorp executive, requesting anonymity because he continues to work in the industry. But that was the time frame State and Defense set for the course. "They were not going to be trained police officers. We knew that. They knew that," the former executive says. "It was a numbers game." In fact, the course has now been cut from eight weeks to six in order to squeeze in more trainees. ("We believe the training is appropriate under the circumstances," says Assistant Secretary of State David Johnson. DynCorp spokesman Douglas Ebner says the basic-training course is part of a more extensive 40-week program, and is supported by further "field monitoring, mentoring, and advising." Training hours have been extended to make up for the lost weeks, he says. DynCorp does "not make the policies, recruit the police candidates, or design the program," he adds, saying the company has "fully met" its objective of providing highly qualified police trainers.)
Whether or not recruits have mastered their subjects, almost everyone graduates. Even if they fail the firearms test, they're issued a weapon and put on the street. Only the Interior Ministry can flunk a candidate, and that rarely happens. "There were a lot of Afghans who seemed to have some patriotism and wanted to make their country better," recalls Tracy Jeansonne, a former deputy sheriff from Louisiana who worked for DynCorp from May 2006 to June 2008. "But a lot of the police officers wanted to be able to extort money from locals. If we caught them, we'd suggest they be removed. But we couldn't fire anybody. We could only make suggestions."
A former midlevel DynCorp official calls the program "dysfunctional." Requesting anonymity because he doesn't want problems with his former employer, he displays dozens of weekly reports sent to State and military officials; almost all include some mention of an Afghan police officer or commander as "corrupt." Yet of the 170,000 or so Afghans trained under the program since its inception, only about 30,000 remain on the force, according to State and Defense officials. "In terms of retention and attrition, we can say there's a problem," says Steve Kraft, who oversees the program for the State Department. The cops' base salary and hazardous-duty pay were recently raised to match Afghan Army levels, but no one knows if those changes are really helping. "Once they leave the training center, we currently don't know whether they stay with the force or quit," Kraft says. "The bottom line is, we just don't know."
And what has become of all the billions of dollars this program has cost America? Government investigators aren't entirely sure. Fundamental questions are raised in an audit of the Afghan police-training program released in February by the State and Defense departments' inspectors general. When State finally sent an "invoice-reconciliation team" to review expense receipts submitted under one particular contract, it discovered that $322 million in invoices had been "approved even though they were not allowable, allocable, or reasonable." What's more, the auditors said, half those invoices included errors.
The lapses don't stop there. The audit says State Department officials "did not conduct adequate surveillance for two task orders in excess of $1 billion." According to the auditors, State's contract supervisors didn't adequately oversee the use of government-owned property, failed to maintain contract files properly, and sometimes neglected to "match goods to receiving reports"—meaning, evidently, that they didn't verify that the U.S. government had actually received the goods it had paid for. (DynCorp's Ebner responds: "We are fully engaged with the Department of State to ensure complete and thorough reconciliation of all invoices, and recognize and welcome the emphasis on sufficient oversight personnel to complete this process.")
Those failures should have been no surprise. The audit also found that State routinely short-staffed its contract-monitoring office in Afghanistan. At one point, only three contract officers were on the ground overseeing DynCorp's $1.7 billion training contract. A former DynCorp official who worked in Afghanistan, asking not to be named because he remains in the government contracting business, says he asked the State Department repeatedly for concrete goals for the police contract but never got firm answers. "I'd ask them: 'Please explain to me what a successful training program was. What are the standards you want us to apply?' There was no vision for the future." (Assistant Secretary Johnson says, "From the start, our training program was based on a clear, professionally developed curriculum ... A simple head count of the number of individuals on the ground ignores the substantial back-office support our contract oversight personnel had from Washington.")
A new set of difficulties arose last summer. Caldwell's predecessor, Gen. Richard Formica, decided that Defense should take direct control of the training contract. To avoid a lengthy bidding competition, he suggested folding the police-training mission into an existing anti-drug and counterterrorism program overseen by the U.S. Army's Space and Missile Defense Command. Bids were limited to companies already under contract to the missile command, effectively shutting out DynCorp. In the end, only two firms wound up bidding: Northrop Grumman and Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater.
DynCorp fought back. In December the company filed a formal protest to block the Defense Department from seizing control of the contract. Last week the Government Accountability Office upheld DynCorp's complaint and suggested that the competition be open to all comers, including DynCorp as well as Xe and Northrop. DynCorp's CEO, William Ballhaus, recently told investors that the company's contract had been extended until July in any case; now it seems the new bidding process will take much longer.
At Kabul's police training center, a team of 35 Italian carabinieri recently arrived to supplement DynCorp's efforts. Before the Italians showed up at the end of January for a one-year tour, the recruits were posting miserable scores on the firing range. But the Italians soon discovered that poor marksmanship wasn't the only reason: the sights of the AK-47 and M-16 rifles the recruits were using were badly out of line. "We zeroed all their weapons," says Lt. Rolando Tommasini. "It's a very important thing, but no one had done this in the past. I don't know why."
The Italians also had a different way of teaching the recruits to shoot. DynCorp's instructors started their firearms training with 20-round clips at 50 meters; the recruits couldn't be sure at first if they were even hitting the target. Instead the carabinieri started them off with just three bullets each and a target only seven meters away. The recruits would shoot, check the target, and be issued three more rounds. When they began gaining confidence, the distance was gradually increased to 15, then 30, and then 50 meters. On a recent day on the firing range only one of 73 recruits failed the shooting test. The Italians say that's a huge improvement. (DynCorp says its civilian police advisers are "highly qualified"; the average trainer has more than a decade of law-enforcement experience.)
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Caldwell also says it's just easier to work with paramilitary police units, such as the Italians and the French gendarmerie, than with contractors. Active-duty police units have a coherent and disciplined chain of command, Caldwell says. "When I bring in a contractor unit I'm getting a different group of folks," he says. "It may be someone who was a state patrolman, a local sheriff, or a policeman from New York City, each operating under different standards and with different backgrounds." Everything has to be negotiated. "If I say to my contractor that I want to make a change, he may say, 'Well, I'm not sure if that's really the best way,' " says Caldwell. "But if I can bring in a gendarmerie force, they're ready to go ... and take instructions well."
By the end of October, Caldwell hopes to build the force to 109,000 members, including an "elite unit" that so far has roughly 4,900 members. That outfit is called the Afghan National Civil Order Police (ANCOP). It'll be used for particularly sensitive assignments like Marja. ANCOP members get 16 weeks of training, and they're required to have at least a third-grade proficiency in reading and writing. So far, reviews from Marja are mixed. "The new police are more organized, committed, responsible, and helpful than the previous police, who were more like a criminal gang," Assadullah, a school principal, tells newsweek. (Like many Afghans, he uses only one name.) Local shopkeeper Hajji Noruddin Khan disagrees. "We are as disappointed with the new police as we were with the old police," he complains.
Quality matters. "In the rush to increase the number of trained police officers, we must remember that the end goal is a civilian police force capable of promoting good government, not a paramilitary adjunct for the counterinsurgency fight," warns Sen. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Brig. Gen. Larry Nicholson, the top U.S. Marine commander in southern Afghanistan, puts it more succinctly: "I'd rather have one well-trained cop than 10 untrained." Besides, the fact is that no one is quite sure how many Afghan police there really are. The Americans are only now in the process of trying to create a database that will positively identify and track recruits. Without such data, it's more than difficult to catch "ghost" troops who exist only as names on the payroll, not to mention possible Taliban infiltrators.
But the buildup continues, and so does the training. On the firing range just outside Kabul, one of the few decent marksmen is Khair Mohammad, an illiterate 24-year-old from northern Afghanistan. "I've already had a lot of practice shooting at the Taliban," he says. He's been a cop for two years, serving one year in Kandahar and another on checkpoints just outside Marja. "I lost a lot of friends in the fighting," he says. Now he's getting his first taste of formal training, and hoping to join ANCOP. He figures he'd earn about double the $180 a month (including combat pay) he's been getting. His trainers are doing their best to make him worth the extra salary. "One thing the police don't know is good relations with the people," says Carabinieri Lt. Col. Massimo Deiana. "We're trying to train them to respect and relate to people." If such a skill is teachable at all, it could be far more important in the long run than knowing how to shoot straight.
With Sami Yousafzai in Kabul
T. Christian Miller is a senior reporter with ProPublica, an independent, nonprofit news organization that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. For more of Miller's previous reporting on defense contractors, go to www.propublica.org/contractors
© 2010
http://www.newsweek.com/id/235221
Even the contractors fight among themselves. And an 8 week training cycle? God in Heaven but do they suck-the contractors are the oath traitors who will be coming for our guns and our Freedom when they're given the green light. Take heart...
The drug dealing US Govt's strategy of Afghaning the war in their own country was doomed from the start.
Full article below:
Afghani police use a rifle training course in Kabul as a DynCorp employee looks on
By T. Christian Miller, Mark Hosenball, and Ron Moreau NEWSWEEK
Published Mar 19, 2010
Mohammad Moqim watches in despair as his men struggle with their AK-47 automatic rifles, doing their best to hit man-size targets 50 meters away. A few of the police trainees lying prone in the mud are decent shots, but the rest shoot clumsily, and fumble as they try to reload their weapons. The Afghan National Police (ANP) captain sighs as he dismisses one group of trainees and orders 25 more to take their places on the firing line. "We are still at zero," says Captain Moqim, 35, an eight-year veteran of the force. "They don't listen, are undisciplined, and will never be real policemen."
Poor marksmanship is the least of it. Worse, crooked Afghan cops supply much of the ammunition used by the Taliban, according to Saleh Mohammed, an insurgent commander in Helmand province. The bullets and rocket-propelled grenades sold by the cops are cheaper and of better quality than the ammo at local markets, he says. It's easy for local cops to concoct credible excuses for using so much ammunition, especially because their supervisors try to avoid areas where the Taliban are active. Mohammed says local police sometimes even stage fake firefights so that if higher-ups question their outsize orders for ammo, villagers will say they've heard fighting.
PHOTOS
In Taliban Country
The story of the Taliban's fall and rise, in their own words.
America has spent more than $6 billion since 2002 in an effort to create an effective Afghan police force, buying weapons, building police academies, and hiring defense contractors to train the recruits—but the program has been a disaster. More than $322 million worth of invoices for police training were approved even though the funds were poorly accounted for, according to a government audit, and fewer than 12 percent of the country's police units are capable of operating on their own. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, the State Department's top representative in the region, has publicly called the Afghan police "an inadequate organization, riddled with corruption." During the Obama administration's review of Afghanistan policy last year, "this issue received more attention than any other except for the question of U.S. troop levels," Holbrooke later told NEWSWEEK. "We drilled down deep into this."
The worst of it is that the police are central to Washington's plans for getting out of Afghanistan. The U.S.-backed government in Kabul will never have popular support if it can't keep people safe in their own homes and streets. Yet in a United Nations poll last fall, more than half the Afghan respondents said the police are corrupt. Police commanders have been implicated in drug trafficking, and when U.S. Marines moved into the town of Aynak last summer, villagers accused the local police force of extortion, assault, and rape.
The public's distrust of the cops is palpable in the former insurgent stronghold of Marja. Village elders welcomed the U.S. Marines who recently drove out the Taliban, but told the Americans flatly they don't want the ANP to return. "The people of Marja will tell you that one of their greatest fears was the police coming back," says Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, who took over in November as chief of the U.S. program to expand and improve Afghanistan's security forces. "You constantly hear these stories about who was worse: the Afghan police that were there or the Taliban." The success of America's counterinsurgency strategy depends on the cops, who have greater contact with local communities than the Army does. "This is not about seizing land or holding terrain; it's about the people," says Caldwell. "You have to have a police force that the people accept, believe in, and trust."
More than a year after Barack Obama took office, the president is still discovering how bad things are. At a March 12 briefing on Afghanistan with his senior advisers, he asked whether the police will be ready when America's scheduled drawdown begins in July 2011, according to a senior official who was in the room. "It's inconceivable, but in fact for eight years we weren't training the police," replied Caldwell, taking part in the meeting via video link from Afghanistan. "We just never trained them before. All we did was give them a uniform." The president looked stunned. "Eight years," he said. "And we didn't train police? It's mind-boggling." The room was silent.
Efforts to build a post-Taliban police force have been plagued from the start by unrealistic goals, poor oversight, and slapdash hiring. Patrolmen were recruited locally, issued weapons, and placed on the beat with little or no formal training. Most of their techniques have been picked up on the job—including plenty of ugly habits. Even now, Caldwell says, barely a quarter of the 98,000-member force has received any formal instruction. The people who oversaw much of the training that did take place were contractors—many of them former American cops or sheriffs. They themselves had little proper direction, and the government officials overseeing their activities did not bother to examine most expenses under $3,000, leaving room for abuse. Amazingly, no single agency or individual ever had control of the training program for long, so lines of accountability were blurred.
Coalition efforts to build an Afghan police force were painfully slow at first. By 2003 the U.S. State Department decided to speed things up by deploying the Virginia-based defense contractor DynCorp International, which had held previous contracts to train police officers in Kosovo and Haiti. The company began setting up a string of training centers across the country. After the Defense Department took a role in overseeing that work in 2005, it squabbled constantly with State over whether the training should emphasize police work or counterinsurgency.
Neither the State Department nor DynCorp was prepared for the job they faced. Most of the recruits are rural villagers who have never been inside a classroom. Roughly 15 percent test positive for drugs, primarily hashish. Few know how to use a toothbrush or drive, and nearly 90 percent are illiterate. In 2005 DynCorp opened a new police academy on the outskirts of Jalalabad, and within a few months the academy's drains backed up. Maintenance workers discovered that the septic tanks were full of smooth stones—a toilet-paper substitute used by many rural Afghans. DynCorp had to bring in backhoes to repair the problem, and the company had to add two days of classes in basic hygiene.
The ANP still takes just about anyone who applies. "Our recruits are unemployed youth with no education and no prospects," says Police Col. Mohammad Hashim Babakarkhil, deputy commander of Kabul's central police-training center. Since January 2007, upwards of 2,000 police have been killed in action—more than twice the figure for Afghan Army soldiers. U.S. officers say as many as half the police casualties were a result of firearms accidents and traffic collisions.
It's practically impossible to produce competent police officers in a program of only eight weeks, says a former senior DynCorp executive, requesting anonymity because he continues to work in the industry. But that was the time frame State and Defense set for the course. "They were not going to be trained police officers. We knew that. They knew that," the former executive says. "It was a numbers game." In fact, the course has now been cut from eight weeks to six in order to squeeze in more trainees. ("We believe the training is appropriate under the circumstances," says Assistant Secretary of State David Johnson. DynCorp spokesman Douglas Ebner says the basic-training course is part of a more extensive 40-week program, and is supported by further "field monitoring, mentoring, and advising." Training hours have been extended to make up for the lost weeks, he says. DynCorp does "not make the policies, recruit the police candidates, or design the program," he adds, saying the company has "fully met" its objective of providing highly qualified police trainers.)
Whether or not recruits have mastered their subjects, almost everyone graduates. Even if they fail the firearms test, they're issued a weapon and put on the street. Only the Interior Ministry can flunk a candidate, and that rarely happens. "There were a lot of Afghans who seemed to have some patriotism and wanted to make their country better," recalls Tracy Jeansonne, a former deputy sheriff from Louisiana who worked for DynCorp from May 2006 to June 2008. "But a lot of the police officers wanted to be able to extort money from locals. If we caught them, we'd suggest they be removed. But we couldn't fire anybody. We could only make suggestions."
A former midlevel DynCorp official calls the program "dysfunctional." Requesting anonymity because he doesn't want problems with his former employer, he displays dozens of weekly reports sent to State and military officials; almost all include some mention of an Afghan police officer or commander as "corrupt." Yet of the 170,000 or so Afghans trained under the program since its inception, only about 30,000 remain on the force, according to State and Defense officials. "In terms of retention and attrition, we can say there's a problem," says Steve Kraft, who oversees the program for the State Department. The cops' base salary and hazardous-duty pay were recently raised to match Afghan Army levels, but no one knows if those changes are really helping. "Once they leave the training center, we currently don't know whether they stay with the force or quit," Kraft says. "The bottom line is, we just don't know."
And what has become of all the billions of dollars this program has cost America? Government investigators aren't entirely sure. Fundamental questions are raised in an audit of the Afghan police-training program released in February by the State and Defense departments' inspectors general. When State finally sent an "invoice-reconciliation team" to review expense receipts submitted under one particular contract, it discovered that $322 million in invoices had been "approved even though they were not allowable, allocable, or reasonable." What's more, the auditors said, half those invoices included errors.
The lapses don't stop there. The audit says State Department officials "did not conduct adequate surveillance for two task orders in excess of $1 billion." According to the auditors, State's contract supervisors didn't adequately oversee the use of government-owned property, failed to maintain contract files properly, and sometimes neglected to "match goods to receiving reports"—meaning, evidently, that they didn't verify that the U.S. government had actually received the goods it had paid for. (DynCorp's Ebner responds: "We are fully engaged with the Department of State to ensure complete and thorough reconciliation of all invoices, and recognize and welcome the emphasis on sufficient oversight personnel to complete this process.")
Those failures should have been no surprise. The audit also found that State routinely short-staffed its contract-monitoring office in Afghanistan. At one point, only three contract officers were on the ground overseeing DynCorp's $1.7 billion training contract. A former DynCorp official who worked in Afghanistan, asking not to be named because he remains in the government contracting business, says he asked the State Department repeatedly for concrete goals for the police contract but never got firm answers. "I'd ask them: 'Please explain to me what a successful training program was. What are the standards you want us to apply?' There was no vision for the future." (Assistant Secretary Johnson says, "From the start, our training program was based on a clear, professionally developed curriculum ... A simple head count of the number of individuals on the ground ignores the substantial back-office support our contract oversight personnel had from Washington.")
A new set of difficulties arose last summer. Caldwell's predecessor, Gen. Richard Formica, decided that Defense should take direct control of the training contract. To avoid a lengthy bidding competition, he suggested folding the police-training mission into an existing anti-drug and counterterrorism program overseen by the U.S. Army's Space and Missile Defense Command. Bids were limited to companies already under contract to the missile command, effectively shutting out DynCorp. In the end, only two firms wound up bidding: Northrop Grumman and Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater.
DynCorp fought back. In December the company filed a formal protest to block the Defense Department from seizing control of the contract. Last week the Government Accountability Office upheld DynCorp's complaint and suggested that the competition be open to all comers, including DynCorp as well as Xe and Northrop. DynCorp's CEO, William Ballhaus, recently told investors that the company's contract had been extended until July in any case; now it seems the new bidding process will take much longer.
At Kabul's police training center, a team of 35 Italian carabinieri recently arrived to supplement DynCorp's efforts. Before the Italians showed up at the end of January for a one-year tour, the recruits were posting miserable scores on the firing range. But the Italians soon discovered that poor marksmanship wasn't the only reason: the sights of the AK-47 and M-16 rifles the recruits were using were badly out of line. "We zeroed all their weapons," says Lt. Rolando Tommasini. "It's a very important thing, but no one had done this in the past. I don't know why."
The Italians also had a different way of teaching the recruits to shoot. DynCorp's instructors started their firearms training with 20-round clips at 50 meters; the recruits couldn't be sure at first if they were even hitting the target. Instead the carabinieri started them off with just three bullets each and a target only seven meters away. The recruits would shoot, check the target, and be issued three more rounds. When they began gaining confidence, the distance was gradually increased to 15, then 30, and then 50 meters. On a recent day on the firing range only one of 73 recruits failed the shooting test. The Italians say that's a huge improvement. (DynCorp says its civilian police advisers are "highly qualified"; the average trainer has more than a decade of law-enforcement experience.)
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Caldwell also says it's just easier to work with paramilitary police units, such as the Italians and the French gendarmerie, than with contractors. Active-duty police units have a coherent and disciplined chain of command, Caldwell says. "When I bring in a contractor unit I'm getting a different group of folks," he says. "It may be someone who was a state patrolman, a local sheriff, or a policeman from New York City, each operating under different standards and with different backgrounds." Everything has to be negotiated. "If I say to my contractor that I want to make a change, he may say, 'Well, I'm not sure if that's really the best way,' " says Caldwell. "But if I can bring in a gendarmerie force, they're ready to go ... and take instructions well."
By the end of October, Caldwell hopes to build the force to 109,000 members, including an "elite unit" that so far has roughly 4,900 members. That outfit is called the Afghan National Civil Order Police (ANCOP). It'll be used for particularly sensitive assignments like Marja. ANCOP members get 16 weeks of training, and they're required to have at least a third-grade proficiency in reading and writing. So far, reviews from Marja are mixed. "The new police are more organized, committed, responsible, and helpful than the previous police, who were more like a criminal gang," Assadullah, a school principal, tells newsweek. (Like many Afghans, he uses only one name.) Local shopkeeper Hajji Noruddin Khan disagrees. "We are as disappointed with the new police as we were with the old police," he complains.
Quality matters. "In the rush to increase the number of trained police officers, we must remember that the end goal is a civilian police force capable of promoting good government, not a paramilitary adjunct for the counterinsurgency fight," warns Sen. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Brig. Gen. Larry Nicholson, the top U.S. Marine commander in southern Afghanistan, puts it more succinctly: "I'd rather have one well-trained cop than 10 untrained." Besides, the fact is that no one is quite sure how many Afghan police there really are. The Americans are only now in the process of trying to create a database that will positively identify and track recruits. Without such data, it's more than difficult to catch "ghost" troops who exist only as names on the payroll, not to mention possible Taliban infiltrators.
But the buildup continues, and so does the training. On the firing range just outside Kabul, one of the few decent marksmen is Khair Mohammad, an illiterate 24-year-old from northern Afghanistan. "I've already had a lot of practice shooting at the Taliban," he says. He's been a cop for two years, serving one year in Kandahar and another on checkpoints just outside Marja. "I lost a lot of friends in the fighting," he says. Now he's getting his first taste of formal training, and hoping to join ANCOP. He figures he'd earn about double the $180 a month (including combat pay) he's been getting. His trainers are doing their best to make him worth the extra salary. "One thing the police don't know is good relations with the people," says Carabinieri Lt. Col. Massimo Deiana. "We're trying to train them to respect and relate to people." If such a skill is teachable at all, it could be far more important in the long run than knowing how to shoot straight.
With Sami Yousafzai in Kabul
T. Christian Miller is a senior reporter with ProPublica, an independent, nonprofit news organization that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. For more of Miller's previous reporting on defense contractors, go to www.propublica.org/contractors
© 2010
http://www.newsweek.com/id/235221
Monday, March 29, 2010
MESSAGE TO THE MILITIA-BEFORE YOU GO AVENGING THE HUTAREE, READ:
A "Christian Militia" group called the Hutaree was raided this weekend. Go HERE for updates:
http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=26;t=000139;p=1
First, it was a good thing they surrendered without a fight but then again judging by a certain member called Azuurlin... who flamed me out of the blue for attacking Google-weren't we supposed to be on the same side? Judging by how they operate, how other militia groups shunned them I'm not surprised they folded.
It's good they folded because if those loudmouths had let but one round fly the feds in their hundreds of agents with armor and air backup would have shot them into bloody mush. Not swiss cheese, mush. We'd be in a real shooting civil war... over a pack of loudmouth racists.
Second, you can't prepare enough for a war, but militias are especially unprepared.
No manufacturing capacity
No economic or political support
Shunned by most Americans.
It would be for the most part a fabulous hunt for the feds. Those that realize that waging war involves more than having a website with pictures of yourselves in cammies hip shooting your AK's for the camera would do wise to rectify those deficits.
Learn how to make ammunition. Guns? There will be plenty of guns your ammo supplies are critical and where are they at?
Worse, where do you get food? A place to sleep? Medical assistance? Recruits? Intel?
Since you have a finite amount of ammunition, no local support, how do you go about to rectify that deficit with the people in your area?
Are you involved in the community-preferably through a front organization?
Do you help people in their everyday existence? Do you take in orphans and foreclosed families? Do you keep a eye out for local law enforcement and warn where the speed traps are, the checkpoints etc.?
Do you pool resources together to generate underground economic activity; enough to attract more people in and help starve the beast of their slaves labor?
Do you organize recall elections for local corrupt politicians in smaller communities? Not just to get rid of the trash but to build that political and economic base-and by extension the base of popular support all guerilla movements need?
All of this I've written about these past five years. Go through my blog...
Marching about playing Rambo on the weekends has never cut it. Make a difference while you can our survival depends on it.
http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=26;t=000139;p=1
First, it was a good thing they surrendered without a fight but then again judging by a certain member called Azuurlin... who flamed me out of the blue for attacking Google-weren't we supposed to be on the same side? Judging by how they operate, how other militia groups shunned them I'm not surprised they folded.
It's good they folded because if those loudmouths had let but one round fly the feds in their hundreds of agents with armor and air backup would have shot them into bloody mush. Not swiss cheese, mush. We'd be in a real shooting civil war... over a pack of loudmouth racists.
Second, you can't prepare enough for a war, but militias are especially unprepared.
No manufacturing capacity
No economic or political support
Shunned by most Americans.
It would be for the most part a fabulous hunt for the feds. Those that realize that waging war involves more than having a website with pictures of yourselves in cammies hip shooting your AK's for the camera would do wise to rectify those deficits.
Learn how to make ammunition. Guns? There will be plenty of guns your ammo supplies are critical and where are they at?
Worse, where do you get food? A place to sleep? Medical assistance? Recruits? Intel?
Since you have a finite amount of ammunition, no local support, how do you go about to rectify that deficit with the people in your area?
Are you involved in the community-preferably through a front organization?
Do you help people in their everyday existence? Do you take in orphans and foreclosed families? Do you keep a eye out for local law enforcement and warn where the speed traps are, the checkpoints etc.?
Do you pool resources together to generate underground economic activity; enough to attract more people in and help starve the beast of their slaves labor?
Do you organize recall elections for local corrupt politicians in smaller communities? Not just to get rid of the trash but to build that political and economic base-and by extension the base of popular support all guerilla movements need?
All of this I've written about these past five years. Go through my blog...
Marching about playing Rambo on the weekends has never cut it. Make a difference while you can our survival depends on it.
Thursday, March 25, 2010
FUCK YOU TOO, GOOGLE
I saw what you put in the blurb... cutting and pasting an article:
Freedom GuideI'm… just going to be done with Freedom Guide. I've written just about everything I could anyway its just that what I was hoping to do-not going to happen. ...
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NOT going anywhere.
Freedom GuideI'm… just going to be done with Freedom Guide. I've written just about everything I could anyway its just that what I was hoping to do-not going to happen. ...
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NOT going anywhere.
198 MEANS OF NONVIOLENT PROTEST
From Airforce at AWRM.ORG:
For those who think breaking windows is a bad idea, here are 198 methods of nonviolent action. I recommend all of them:
quote:
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THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT PROTEST AND PERSUASION
Formal Statements
1. Public Speeches
2. Letters of opposition or support
3. Declarations by organizations and institutions
4. Signed public statements
5. Declarations of indictment and intention
6. Group or mass petitions
Communications with a Wider Audience
7. Slogans, caricatures, and symbols
8. Banners, posters, and displayed communications
9. Leaflets, pamphlets, and books
10. Newspapers and journals
11. Records, radio, and television
12. Skywriting and earthwriting
Group Representations
13. Deputations
14. Mock awards
15. Group lobbying
16. Picketing
17. Mock elections
Symbolic Public Acts
18. Displays of flags and symbolic colors
19. Wearing of symbols
20. Prayer and worship
21. Delivering symbolic objects
22. Protest disrobings
23. Destruction of own property
24. Symbolic lights
25. Displays of portraits
26. Paint as protest
27. New signs and names
28. Symbolic sounds
29. Symbolic reclamations
30. Rude gestures
Pressures on Individuals
31. "Haunting" officials
32. Taunting officials
33. Fraternization
34. Vigils
Drama and Music
35. Humorous skits and pranks
36. Performances of plays and music
37. Singing
Processions
38. Marches
39. Parades
40. Religious processions
41. Pilgrimages
42. Motorcades
Honoring the Dead
43. Political mourning
44. Mock funerals
45. Demonstrative funerals
46. Homage at burial places
Public Assemblies
47. Assemblies of protest or support
48. Protest meetings
49. Camouflaged meetings of protest
50. Teach-ins
Withdrawal and Renunciation
51. Walk-outs
52. Silence
53. Renouncing honors
54. Turning one's back
THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION
Ostracism of Persons
55. Social boycott
56. Selective social boycott
57. Lysistratic nonaction
58. Excommunication
59. Interdict
Noncooperation with Social Events, Customs, and Institutions
60. Suspension of social and sports activities
61. Boycott of social affairs
62. Student strike
63. Social disobedience
64. Withdrawal from social institutions
Withdrawal from the Social System
65. Stay-at-home
66. Total personal noncooperation
67. "Flight" of workers
68. Sanctuary
69. Collective disappearance
70. Protest emigration (hijrat)
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: (1) ECONOMIC BOYCOTTS
Actions by Consumers
71. Consumers' boycott
72. Nonconsumption of boycotted goods
73. Policy of austerity
74. Rent withholding
75. Refusal to rent
76. National consumers' boycott
77. International consumers' boycott
Action by Workers and Producers
78. Workmen's boycott
79. Producers' boycott
Action by Middlemen
80. Suppliers' and handlers' boycott
Action by Owners and Management
81. Traders' boycott
82. Refusal to let or sell property
83. Lockout
84. Refusal of industrial assistance
85. Merchants' "general strike"
Action by Holders of Financial Resources
86. Withdrawal of bank deposits
87. Refusal to pay fees, dues, and assessments
88. Refusal to pay debts or interest
89. Severance of funds and credit
90. Revenue refusal
91. Refusal of a government's money
Action by Governments
92. Domestic embargo
93. Blacklisting of traders
94. International sellers' embargo
95. International buyers' embargo
96. International trade embargo
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: (2)THE STRIKE
Symbolic Strikes
97. Protest strike
98. Quickie walkout (lightning strike)
Agricultural Strikes
99. Peasant strike
100. Farm Workers' strike
Strikes by Special Groups
101. Refusal of impressed labor
102. Prisoners' strike
103. Craft strike
104. Professional strike
Ordinary Industrial Strikes
105. Establishment strike
106. Industry strike
107. Sympathetic strike
Restricted Strikes
108. Detailed strike
109. Bumper strike
110. Slowdown strike
111. Working-to-rule strike
112. Reporting "sick" (sick-in)
113. Strike by resignation
114. Limited strike
115. Selective strike
Multi-Industry Strikes
116. Generalized strike
117. General strike
Combination of Strikes and Economic Closures
118. Hartal
119. Economic shutdown
THE METHODS OF POLITICAL NONCOOPERATION
Rejection of Authority
120. Withholding or withdrawal of allegiance
121. Refusal of public support
122. Literature and speeches advocating resistance
Citizens' Noncooperation with Government
123. Boycott of legislative bodies
124. Boycott of elections
125. Boycott of government employment and positions
126. Boycott of government depts., agencies, and other bodies
127. Withdrawal from government educational institutions
128. Boycott of government-supported organizations
129. Refusal of assistance to enforcement agents
130. Removal of own signs and placemarks
131. Refusal to accept appointed officials
132. Refusal to dissolve existing institutions
Citizens' Alternatives to Obedience
133. Reluctant and slow compliance
134. Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision
135. Popular nonobedience
136. Disguised disobedience
137. Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse
138. Sitdown
139. Noncooperation with conscription and deportation
140. Hiding, escape, and false identities
141. Civil disobedience of "illegitimate" laws
Action by Government Personnel
142. Selective refusal of assistance by government aides
143. Blocking of lines of command and information
144. Stalling and obstruction
145. General administrative noncooperation
146. Judicial noncooperation
147. Deliberate inefficiency and selective noncooperation by enforcement agents
148. Mutiny
Domestic Governmental Action
149. Quasi-legal evasions and delays
150. Noncooperation by constituent governmental units
International Governmental Action
151. Changes in diplomatic and other representations
152. Delay and cancellation of diplomatic events
153. Withholding of diplomatic recognition
154. Severance of diplomatic relations
155. Withdrawal from international organizations
156. Refusal of membership in international bodies
157. Expulsion from international organizations
THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT INTERVENTION
Psychological Intervention
158. Self-exposure to the elements
159. The fast
a) Fast of moral pressure
b) Hunger strike
c) Satyagrahic fast
160. Reverse trial
161. Nonviolent harassment
Physical Intervention
162. Sit-in
163. Stand-in
164. Ride-in
165. Wade-in
166. Mill-in
167. Pray-in
168. Nonviolent raids
169. Nonviolent air raids
170. Nonviolent invasion
171. Nonviolent interjection
172. Nonviolent obstruction
173. Nonviolent occupation
Social Intervention
174. Establishing new social patterns
175. Overloading of facilities
176. Stall-in
177. Speak-in
178. Guerrilla theater
179. Alternative social institutions
180. Alternative communication system
Economic Intervention
181. Reverse strike
182. Stay-in strike
183. Nonviolent land seizure
184. Defiance of blockades
185. Politically motivated counterfeiting
186. Preclusive purchasing
187. Seizure of assets
188. Dumping
189. Selective patronage
190. Alternative markets
191. Alternative transportation systems
192. Alternative economic institutions
Political Intervention
193. Overloading of administrative systems
194. Disclosing identities of secret agents
195. Seeking imprisonment
196. Civil disobedience of "neutral" laws
197. Work-on without collaboration
198. Dual sovereignty and parallel government
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Of course, breaking windows will get their attention, too.
How many of these can we start implementing? I suspect quite a few.
More in this PDF HERE: http://forumone.com/files/resources/nonviolent_eng.pdf
For those who think breaking windows is a bad idea, here are 198 methods of nonviolent action. I recommend all of them:
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT PROTEST AND PERSUASION
Formal Statements
1. Public Speeches
2. Letters of opposition or support
3. Declarations by organizations and institutions
4. Signed public statements
5. Declarations of indictment and intention
6. Group or mass petitions
Communications with a Wider Audience
7. Slogans, caricatures, and symbols
8. Banners, posters, and displayed communications
9. Leaflets, pamphlets, and books
10. Newspapers and journals
11. Records, radio, and television
12. Skywriting and earthwriting
Group Representations
13. Deputations
14. Mock awards
15. Group lobbying
16. Picketing
17. Mock elections
Symbolic Public Acts
18. Displays of flags and symbolic colors
19. Wearing of symbols
20. Prayer and worship
21. Delivering symbolic objects
22. Protest disrobings
23. Destruction of own property
24. Symbolic lights
25. Displays of portraits
26. Paint as protest
27. New signs and names
28. Symbolic sounds
29. Symbolic reclamations
30. Rude gestures
Pressures on Individuals
31. "Haunting" officials
32. Taunting officials
33. Fraternization
34. Vigils
Drama and Music
35. Humorous skits and pranks
36. Performances of plays and music
37. Singing
Processions
38. Marches
39. Parades
40. Religious processions
41. Pilgrimages
42. Motorcades
Honoring the Dead
43. Political mourning
44. Mock funerals
45. Demonstrative funerals
46. Homage at burial places
Public Assemblies
47. Assemblies of protest or support
48. Protest meetings
49. Camouflaged meetings of protest
50. Teach-ins
Withdrawal and Renunciation
51. Walk-outs
52. Silence
53. Renouncing honors
54. Turning one's back
THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION
Ostracism of Persons
55. Social boycott
56. Selective social boycott
57. Lysistratic nonaction
58. Excommunication
59. Interdict
Noncooperation with Social Events, Customs, and Institutions
60. Suspension of social and sports activities
61. Boycott of social affairs
62. Student strike
63. Social disobedience
64. Withdrawal from social institutions
Withdrawal from the Social System
65. Stay-at-home
66. Total personal noncooperation
67. "Flight" of workers
68. Sanctuary
69. Collective disappearance
70. Protest emigration (hijrat)
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: (1) ECONOMIC BOYCOTTS
Actions by Consumers
71. Consumers' boycott
72. Nonconsumption of boycotted goods
73. Policy of austerity
74. Rent withholding
75. Refusal to rent
76. National consumers' boycott
77. International consumers' boycott
Action by Workers and Producers
78. Workmen's boycott
79. Producers' boycott
Action by Middlemen
80. Suppliers' and handlers' boycott
Action by Owners and Management
81. Traders' boycott
82. Refusal to let or sell property
83. Lockout
84. Refusal of industrial assistance
85. Merchants' "general strike"
Action by Holders of Financial Resources
86. Withdrawal of bank deposits
87. Refusal to pay fees, dues, and assessments
88. Refusal to pay debts or interest
89. Severance of funds and credit
90. Revenue refusal
91. Refusal of a government's money
Action by Governments
92. Domestic embargo
93. Blacklisting of traders
94. International sellers' embargo
95. International buyers' embargo
96. International trade embargo
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: (2)THE STRIKE
Symbolic Strikes
97. Protest strike
98. Quickie walkout (lightning strike)
Agricultural Strikes
99. Peasant strike
100. Farm Workers' strike
Strikes by Special Groups
101. Refusal of impressed labor
102. Prisoners' strike
103. Craft strike
104. Professional strike
Ordinary Industrial Strikes
105. Establishment strike
106. Industry strike
107. Sympathetic strike
Restricted Strikes
108. Detailed strike
109. Bumper strike
110. Slowdown strike
111. Working-to-rule strike
112. Reporting "sick" (sick-in)
113. Strike by resignation
114. Limited strike
115. Selective strike
Multi-Industry Strikes
116. Generalized strike
117. General strike
Combination of Strikes and Economic Closures
118. Hartal
119. Economic shutdown
THE METHODS OF POLITICAL NONCOOPERATION
Rejection of Authority
120. Withholding or withdrawal of allegiance
121. Refusal of public support
122. Literature and speeches advocating resistance
Citizens' Noncooperation with Government
123. Boycott of legislative bodies
124. Boycott of elections
125. Boycott of government employment and positions
126. Boycott of government depts., agencies, and other bodies
127. Withdrawal from government educational institutions
128. Boycott of government-supported organizations
129. Refusal of assistance to enforcement agents
130. Removal of own signs and placemarks
131. Refusal to accept appointed officials
132. Refusal to dissolve existing institutions
Citizens' Alternatives to Obedience
133. Reluctant and slow compliance
134. Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision
135. Popular nonobedience
136. Disguised disobedience
137. Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse
138. Sitdown
139. Noncooperation with conscription and deportation
140. Hiding, escape, and false identities
141. Civil disobedience of "illegitimate" laws
Action by Government Personnel
142. Selective refusal of assistance by government aides
143. Blocking of lines of command and information
144. Stalling and obstruction
145. General administrative noncooperation
146. Judicial noncooperation
147. Deliberate inefficiency and selective noncooperation by enforcement agents
148. Mutiny
Domestic Governmental Action
149. Quasi-legal evasions and delays
150. Noncooperation by constituent governmental units
International Governmental Action
151. Changes in diplomatic and other representations
152. Delay and cancellation of diplomatic events
153. Withholding of diplomatic recognition
154. Severance of diplomatic relations
155. Withdrawal from international organizations
156. Refusal of membership in international bodies
157. Expulsion from international organizations
THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT INTERVENTION
Psychological Intervention
158. Self-exposure to the elements
159. The fast
a) Fast of moral pressure
b) Hunger strike
c) Satyagrahic fast
160. Reverse trial
161. Nonviolent harassment
Physical Intervention
162. Sit-in
163. Stand-in
164. Ride-in
165. Wade-in
166. Mill-in
167. Pray-in
168. Nonviolent raids
169. Nonviolent air raids
170. Nonviolent invasion
171. Nonviolent interjection
172. Nonviolent obstruction
173. Nonviolent occupation
Social Intervention
174. Establishing new social patterns
175. Overloading of facilities
176. Stall-in
177. Speak-in
178. Guerrilla theater
179. Alternative social institutions
180. Alternative communication system
Economic Intervention
181. Reverse strike
182. Stay-in strike
183. Nonviolent land seizure
184. Defiance of blockades
185. Politically motivated counterfeiting
186. Preclusive purchasing
187. Seizure of assets
188. Dumping
189. Selective patronage
190. Alternative markets
191. Alternative transportation systems
192. Alternative economic institutions
Political Intervention
193. Overloading of administrative systems
194. Disclosing identities of secret agents
195. Seeking imprisonment
196. Civil disobedience of "neutral" laws
197. Work-on without collaboration
198. Dual sovereignty and parallel government
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course, breaking windows will get their attention, too.
How many of these can we start implementing? I suspect quite a few.
More in this PDF HERE: http://forumone.com/files/resources/nonviolent_eng.pdf
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
DEAR HOBIE-AN EXCHANGE AT RUMORMILL NEWS-UPDATE!!!
For awhile now, several months, I’ve greatly reduced my participation as an Agent for Rumor Mill News.
An eclectic collection of news, I considered it a valuable place to find out news you’d never find out anyplace else. However one of the agents, Hobie, has abused his position to literally clog up the site with his 10-20 posts from his ’sources’ daily saying oh the mythical ‘packets’ that would instantly restore America, the packets are here, there, held up, in the Pentagon, Chief Supreme Court justice John Roberts has them, blah, blah, blah. The sad internet drama has literally shat on RMN.
Below is the post where it was brought up:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/members/forum.cgi?read=169569
MAIL CALL! RE: HEALTH CARE-I HOPE IT PASSES!
Posted By: J
Date: Monday, 22-Mar-2010 17:27:35 Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
Hi,
Have been reading your posts off and on for years. Will miss them. Stay safe,
warm and dry. Have lost some of them over the years due to CPU crashes, etc.
Hope RMN will keep them archived.
“RM”
REPLY:
I’m… just going to be done with Freedom Guide. I’ve written just about everything I could anyway its just that what I was hoping to do-not going to happen. Half from general apathy half from deep cover operatives sabotaging and leading everyone astray and otherwise make ineffective our movements. So…
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This is from Larry… yes definetly read this one:
Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
I’m with you J. I’m done with the we can change the political system from within
Certainly as a overall solution but using recall elections to secure bastions of Freedom is still tactically sound. Who knows maybe we can pull something off yet but people have got to take responsibility for themselves and each other and DO.
or there’s help on the way with packets bullshit and all the other nonsense
that’s on this site.
Yes, the whole packets drama is a bunch of bullcrap that sounds like a mind control experiment to see just how gullible people can be. If so it’s an amazing success.
To be fair RMN has on all the stuff other sites won’t touch. There’s a lot of truth and a lot of crap but that’s for you to decide. It’s when complaints are registered and they’re addressed in a negative fashion that it becomes a problem.
The beast is totaly run and controlled by Khazar Zionist
Bankers and their minions, that are going for the final assault. This last go
for broke assault will be using the full force of their media, financial,
political, and military whores. The American sheeple are just to dumbed down to
be an effective adversary to their goals.
Look at it this way: in all revolutions it is a minority of awakened, aware, self-leading, self-responsible Patriots that made and carried a struggle. Most people are better off joining via support and/or nonviolent noncompliance and NONVIOLENT NONCOMPLANCE is just how to defeat the beast.
Hell just look at all the retarded
postings up on RMN anymore. People like hobie and his bullshit diversionary crap
are as good as an example as there is as to why there’s not much reason for
thinking humans to come here much anymore. I used to think their might be hope
enlightening the readers with thought provoking “tell it like it is” posters
like yourself. Posters that used to be the norm at RMN. What a sad sea of
bullshit it has now become. Now I know we only have the use
of the 2nd amendment left to us and any fool too blind to see the reality of
it will get the fate they deserve. A fate reserved for those living in a fantasy
world.A fate reserved for those not willing to open there eye’s and mind to the
truth.
Hobie this wasn’t me who wrote that but you have to admit the whole packets drama-why?!! Why not just post a notice stating that you will only report on the packets again WHEN THEY’RE ACTUALLY DELIVERED AND DISTRIBUTING?
Any reasonable person could agree with that, right?
A fate you and I J will unfortunately probably share with them.
Speak for yourself I intend to win. And I will.
But I
like you will not die a slave to these communist subhuman piece’s of dog shit.
Viva the spirit of Patrick Henry.
Amen Brother! A couple three more below:
Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
J…
It’s going to pass tonight, so you will get your wish…
Get ready… It’s finally time… LOCK AND LOAD!!!
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From James:
Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
I agree. Lets see how many have the stomach.For anyone coming to the door to
enforce this new law, instant execution should be carried out. It is legal. It
is moral. It is mandated by US law.
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Well Hobie replied and below is his message and my reply:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/members/forum.cgi?read=169620
Below is a reproduction of a reply I sent to Hobie about mail call about this issue:
Hobie this wasn’t me who wrote that but you
: have to admit the whole packets drama-why?!! Why not just
: post a notice stating that you will only report on the
: packets again WHEN THEY’RE ACTUALLY DELIVERED AND
: DISTRIBUTING?
: Any reasonable person could agree with that, right?
: [quote]Well, coupla things about that: – Despite the
: “makes me see red” a few folks experience with
: those updates, I promise you there are other Readers who
: prefer that I post them. Which group of Readers shall we
: satisfy?[/quote]
I didn’t know this was a entertainment website;)
I thought this was news you wouldn’t get anyplace else. That’s why I joined-not to fill half the board with a lame version of Lucy yanking the football from Charlie Brown as he’s about to kick the field goal.
“The packets are here”
“the packets are with John Roberts-no, Obama-no, at the Pentagon”
I could, and MOST of our readership could understand, an occasional update. But you purposely fill up this message board with your shit-yes, shit.
You fill a news website with shit what happens? Viewership may drop, or it may be replaced with people with a taste for shit. Whether or not that happens what is guaranteed to happen is that OUR CREDIBILITY DROPS.
Now, I know RMN deals with issues nobody else will tackle. Morgellons. Hyperdimensional Physics and the enemy’s usage. The Factions. Forbidden history. Alternate health. Yes, TO A POINT the news on packets is valid; but you go way too far. Have been for months and so far you’ve had cover from the front office when someone rightly criticizes you.
We’re going into a deeper level of slavery in America with this Health Care nightmare… it’s a little hard to get that with this daily ridiculousness.
[quote]: – Posting Casper’s updates here allows folks a chance to say
: what they think about them, something they don’t really get
: at fourwinds. [/quote]
It clogs up the board! You don’t find me… when I was posting regularly until you bombed RMN with your packets crap… posting every single posting from everyone either still FOOLISHLY waiting on those deliveries or those laughing/disgusted at you bogarting RMN. Maybe Rayelan should rename it the Hobie show:)
[quote]: – Ceasing to post those until such time as deliveries occur
: actually makes no sense – as, _announcements_ are expected
: to follow deliveries, in which case the whole world is
: gonna know about it and we won’t need to post anything
: then. :) [/quote]
Wow. That’s a magnificent example of pretzel logic.
It would make with the BS hobie’s sources put out-and he diligently pollutes RMN with-that he shut the hell up about the packets UNTIL they’re delivered and then make all the announcements he/they want.
Except that this is most likely some kind of spook op. And hobie is most likely a spook himself. Hell, Rayelan was married to one so she’s essentially a spook herself-setting the Factions aside for once.
[quote]: Likewise, Poof expects to “fall silent” and give
: himself a well-earned vacation at that point and will no
: longer be sending his newsletters for anyone to post.
: Casper’s update may also cease at that point. [/quote]
Can he shut the fuck up now? Maybe find a hobby or get a drug habit or something?
This is why I basically stopped posting at Rumor Mill News.
Who can take this website-given the content-take this website seriously with Casper and the other spook douchebags? I can’t. Rayelan Allen brings in readers with her podcasts, and then they get to read your shit. Shit.
RDS2301 made a comment about your shit and got ganged up on.
Striderus-where’s he?
Ghostwolfmoon?
I am or probably soon be ‘was’ about the last voice of reason on this board.
[quote]: And, it’s expected there will be at least a brief
: “non-disclosure” period for the recipients – in
: which case, we may not even know when deliveries do occur.
: :) [/quote]
Whatever.
[quote]: Blessings.
: –hobie
[/quote]
Whatever.
P.S. I’m duplicating this on my websites
http://freedomguide.wordpress.com
http://freedomguide.blogspot.com
Whether or not Rumor Mill News retains me as an Agent is entirely up to them. As of now I find it hard to put any value to staying.
Anybody care to change my mind?
J. Croft
UPDATE:
I’ve been “decommissioned”:
Hi, J –
No surprise, I’m sure, but we thought about it, and no, we don’t care to
change your mind. You’re decommissioned as an RMN Agent.
We’re a bit saddened by it — you did “yeoman service” at RMN for a long
time, and we appreciate that.
Your several posts over the past day or so, however, showed clearly that
you were on the way out the door, no matter what. You did several things
that you really knew better than to do. Pick any one of those you like
as “the reason why” you’ve been decommissioned.
We wish you well.
Zapper
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Well, I guess calling people out is a no-no. Oh well RMN built their ship let them sink with it.
Now a word from an ex-Agent…
Oh you know what happened to me……sigh…..LOL
Ahhhhh and some do keep me abreast of …..ummmm ….interesting things….hahaha
haha did ya thrash his ass ? hahaha
sure em glad I’m not the only one smelling shot….. haha I was thinking it must have been from my pic of a piece of shit with omamba’s face on it…. ROTFLMAO..
yeeaappp I was a think’n the same thing….but as a Counter-Intelli front
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And a second:
Re: MORE MAIL CALL
hahahaha
Sorry J,
but hummer the ‘jew’ is a zionist pecker puffer living in beloit wisc…he’s
most likely one of the local drunks we cheeser’s have to deal with. I’m not
surprised to see he’s moved on to you …iMo he’s the disrupter to rmn from
jewland….”nazi” jewland.
It really interesting that the hobbit interject that the ghost clowns get to use
1st admendment protections but yet a few of us are NOT afforded the same….I
guess showing this half black POS-POTUS face on a turd is now anti-jew too.
Your alright J these people here USED everyone to make lots of money off the
begging cup. imo rmn is nothing but a counter-intelligence front. we’ll see over
time if thats true or not….but it HAS become a NNWO newage religious shit hole
rag mag crap site as charged by …another EX-agent Lonestar that was also given
the boot ….
I believe the complainer is Never Surrender ….because if you haven’t hread or
noticed ….there’s a EGO war going on at rmn for control…and guess who and
where has the most to gain since they’re sitting on a farm owned by rmn that was
“gifted” to raye in Ohio? …..hmmmmm
funny too is that hob and NS are the only two being paid at rmn….. the rest of
us are the chumps filling their pockets as my wife has for a few years been
squawking in my ears about posting there. she the one that pointed out to me
that they appear like an intell site….which is why I posted somethings the way
I did to test that theory…
their setting up patriots for the nazi-zionist jews…..imo
just let me know if you want my saved emails from my firing where the pricks can
NOT even keep their story straight about the reasons….sigh….hahaha
REPLY
Sure gimme the e-mails. I fell into the fallacy we’re supposed to be united but you can’t unite with backstabbers and con artists.
If it’s alright I’m going to post this-I won’t use your name but I need the update from former RMN agents.
Oh, did you know Alex Jones banned me from his forum? It’s true! Out of the blue. Guess he just wants people to get his prisonplanet memberships and chip ins as well.
Fuck all the shysters! I’m calling them all out!
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And another one…
J,
Thank you for your email….
I read your post and totally agree.
Striderus is gone. I have the complete string of back and forth emails
that occured until his account was closed. (he saved every one of them.)
Heard TheMythSmith is gone, too.
If you need a connect to Striderus, I can plug you in.
Definitely some kind of chaos going on so it seems in the front office.
Me?
I’m just a mushroom growing in shit.
But, when I peek out of the cave, it’s abundantly clear, is it not!
A few good folks get on a roll and then the bullshit posts start to
appear… a song here a packet there…. here a pack, there a
pack,everywhere a pack, pack……….geez!
Looking forward to talking with you at your different addy!
Best wishes!
Subject: your posting – followup -
J,
Thought your comments were right on.
And then ole hob posts another casper bullshit post. geez!
And to read his “helping you out the rmn door” comments at the end were what pretty well gave away the whole show.
Personally, I hope you stay on just to rub it in their faces.
There are a few of those who have been “fired” who email each other once in a while using non-rmn, private accounts.
You might want to start asking and collecting them while you still have access.
Once “fired” your entire account will go down including all active and archived articles and email.
Feel free to write to me at this email address if you have any questions, comments or how-dees!
Best wishes!
REPLY:
Already canned.
If you got e-mails of other shitcanned RMN Agents send em. We don’t need Rayelan and them other hustlers!
J
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And a reader who USED to value RMN for it’s one time focus on pertinent information:
Re: REPOST: DEAR HOBIE…(AND THE FUTURE OF RMN)
J, YOu points are most valid, I have sent similar emails to Hobie and of course
they are not posted in the reading room, Have also sent emails to Rayelan and
no reply there. Something in the past three years or so has caused a real
decline in the material posted. I have similar complaints about the mucsic that
Hobie posts, what does this have to do with rumor/news??? THe response is the
usual “many readers like the Casper, music poof and” other junk posts. This awas
a very good site until 0y or there abouts. There was recently( two or three
months) a”negative” post by another agent who ms. Raye then booted from the
site. I have watched many of the old info posters go by the wayside and we are
left with blather…maybe thats why they are constantly begging for money, oh
yeah I usually send an email when there are posts begging for money. I like to
let them know that I will not donate a cent until they get rid of the junk.
have a good one. joe
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And another reader lamenting on the RMN hustle:
Re: REPOST: DEAR HOBIE…(AND THE FUTURE OF RMN)
J,
Seems you are the only sane and true Patriot on RMN along with the former
member, Striderus. Over the three years of my viewership I have seen the RMN
energy level wane, the truth soddened with crap and socialist agents and, if it
were even possible, Raylen becoming even flakier and more desperate for money.
How is it that I have two websites, with their own domains and unlimited
bandwidth for a combined total of under $300 per year? Who and the heck is
‘that’ ignorant to fall for the endless appeal for $3,000/Month?!! She may be
likable but there is NOTHING she does to deserve making a living off that lame
RMN Advertisement whore of a website. Sure glad I never contributed and I do
quickly exit any post begging for $$$.
Yes, I know I don’t have to visit, but I assure you that my visits are quite
infrequent. I am for Pure Play Truth. That means if you don’t place the blame
for the World’s problems squarely at the feet of the Zionists and Zionist Jews,
YOU are part of the problem (not YOU as in J). Only posters on RMN such as you
conduct themselves in Pure Play.
I am a kindred spirit, J, and I am certainly prepared and capable of practicing
what I preach.
REPLY:
Thanks for the kind words.
Well, I lay with mangy dogs, I get the fleas.
Beware the “leaders” of this “movement”…
J
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And yet another Reader:
Re: MORE MAIL CALL
You and I agree on most things. I believe, unfortunately, that the repost of
that first e-mail reply to you is going to get you thrown off this site once
Hobie sees it. Maybe, I’ll see you somewhere else on the web.
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Oh and this is Hobie’s sendoff to me…
Hi, J -
The hope of a different future being held out by Casper and by Poof is opposite to the future you personally believe is coming – thus, to you, their material is “shit” and the Readers who do want that material to be available “have a taste for shit”.
You’re alleging that this material somehow “made” you stop posting regularly here. What really happened is that you made a personal sovereign choice, based on your likes and dislikes, to “take your ball and go home”.
Time was, every day, you’d post a large stack of free-standing messages, turning the place momentarily into the “J show”. But now you object to my posting Reader e-mails, threaded together so that folks are free to step over the whole thing if they want to – and you see that as the “hobie show”.
Don’t you get it? You’re projecting and mirroring, picking on things “out here” when you need to be looking “in there”. The whole thing is “an inside job”.
You’re apparently intent on making changes in your living and want to try burning a few bridges to see if it’ll help. No one could stop you from doing that if it’s your choice to do it. But in the end, it won’t help – because it’s not about those bridges, it’s about you.
You’re well aware that you’re acting in a way contrary to terms you agreed to on becoming an Agent, by thrashing about here in the Reading Room in the particular way that you’ve done it. Then, you say, it’s up to RMN whether you continue posting here. That’s dishonest. You’re trying to “resign by getting yourself decommissioned”, which would give an appearance that someone besides yourself holds responsibility for your departure.
Grow the hell up. This is what “free speech” looks like. There will probably always be people saying things that you personally don’t care for or do not believe. Your effort to get rid of speech you don’t care for is inherently elitist – it’s the same spirit that gave rise to the concepts of “hate speech” and “political correctness”.
If you’re unable to see this and feel you can’t abide with it, the course of integrity would be to resign, honorably, and not to set up a pretense that anyone but you is responsible for you.
–hobie
Yeah the nerve. That’s how they train spooks I suppose…
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CONCLUSION
Basically I got hosed. Punk’d.
I should have connected the dots when I offered Rayelan Allen a cut off the pay of videos-no out of pocket expenses for her… which she DECLINED.
I should have definitely connected the dots when Rayelan referred me to one of her friends who wanted to publish my articles as a book-she tried to hustle me and give all the money to Rayelan.
I finally got it through my thick head with the constant appeals for cash like a televangelist. Offered suggestions and well… she still begged even though she’s got like a hundred ads on her site and the worst pop-ups.
For what? Fairy tales about packets and trivia. And baseless attacks on Alex Jones out of jealousy and not for good reason.
And when you use your 1st to call them on it, you get banned.
Judge everyone by their fruits…
An eclectic collection of news, I considered it a valuable place to find out news you’d never find out anyplace else. However one of the agents, Hobie, has abused his position to literally clog up the site with his 10-20 posts from his ’sources’ daily saying oh the mythical ‘packets’ that would instantly restore America, the packets are here, there, held up, in the Pentagon, Chief Supreme Court justice John Roberts has them, blah, blah, blah. The sad internet drama has literally shat on RMN.
Below is the post where it was brought up:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/members/forum.cgi?read=169569
MAIL CALL! RE: HEALTH CARE-I HOPE IT PASSES!
Posted By: J
Date: Monday, 22-Mar-2010 17:27:35 Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
Hi,
Have been reading your posts off and on for years. Will miss them. Stay safe,
warm and dry. Have lost some of them over the years due to CPU crashes, etc.
Hope RMN will keep them archived.
“RM”
REPLY:
I’m… just going to be done with Freedom Guide. I’ve written just about everything I could anyway its just that what I was hoping to do-not going to happen. Half from general apathy half from deep cover operatives sabotaging and leading everyone astray and otherwise make ineffective our movements. So…
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This is from Larry… yes definetly read this one:
Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
I’m with you J. I’m done with the we can change the political system from within
Certainly as a overall solution but using recall elections to secure bastions of Freedom is still tactically sound. Who knows maybe we can pull something off yet but people have got to take responsibility for themselves and each other and DO.
or there’s help on the way with packets bullshit and all the other nonsense
that’s on this site.
Yes, the whole packets drama is a bunch of bullcrap that sounds like a mind control experiment to see just how gullible people can be. If so it’s an amazing success.
To be fair RMN has on all the stuff other sites won’t touch. There’s a lot of truth and a lot of crap but that’s for you to decide. It’s when complaints are registered and they’re addressed in a negative fashion that it becomes a problem.
The beast is totaly run and controlled by Khazar Zionist
Bankers and their minions, that are going for the final assault. This last go
for broke assault will be using the full force of their media, financial,
political, and military whores. The American sheeple are just to dumbed down to
be an effective adversary to their goals.
Look at it this way: in all revolutions it is a minority of awakened, aware, self-leading, self-responsible Patriots that made and carried a struggle. Most people are better off joining via support and/or nonviolent noncompliance and NONVIOLENT NONCOMPLANCE is just how to defeat the beast.
Hell just look at all the retarded
postings up on RMN anymore. People like hobie and his bullshit diversionary crap
are as good as an example as there is as to why there’s not much reason for
thinking humans to come here much anymore. I used to think their might be hope
enlightening the readers with thought provoking “tell it like it is” posters
like yourself. Posters that used to be the norm at RMN. What a sad sea of
bullshit it has now become. Now I know we only have the use
of the 2nd amendment left to us and any fool too blind to see the reality of
it will get the fate they deserve. A fate reserved for those living in a fantasy
world.A fate reserved for those not willing to open there eye’s and mind to the
truth.
Hobie this wasn’t me who wrote that but you have to admit the whole packets drama-why?!! Why not just post a notice stating that you will only report on the packets again WHEN THEY’RE ACTUALLY DELIVERED AND DISTRIBUTING?
Any reasonable person could agree with that, right?
A fate you and I J will unfortunately probably share with them.
Speak for yourself I intend to win. And I will.
But I
like you will not die a slave to these communist subhuman piece’s of dog shit.
Viva the spirit of Patrick Henry.
Amen Brother! A couple three more below:
Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
J…
It’s going to pass tonight, so you will get your wish…
Get ready… It’s finally time… LOCK AND LOAD!!!
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From James:
Re: HEALTH CARE BILL-I HOPE IT PASSES!
I agree. Lets see how many have the stomach.For anyone coming to the door to
enforce this new law, instant execution should be carried out. It is legal. It
is moral. It is mandated by US law.
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Well Hobie replied and below is his message and my reply:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/members/forum.cgi?read=169620
Below is a reproduction of a reply I sent to Hobie about mail call about this issue:
Hobie this wasn’t me who wrote that but you
: have to admit the whole packets drama-why?!! Why not just
: post a notice stating that you will only report on the
: packets again WHEN THEY’RE ACTUALLY DELIVERED AND
: DISTRIBUTING?
: Any reasonable person could agree with that, right?
: [quote]Well, coupla things about that: – Despite the
: “makes me see red” a few folks experience with
: those updates, I promise you there are other Readers who
: prefer that I post them. Which group of Readers shall we
: satisfy?[/quote]
I didn’t know this was a entertainment website;)
I thought this was news you wouldn’t get anyplace else. That’s why I joined-not to fill half the board with a lame version of Lucy yanking the football from Charlie Brown as he’s about to kick the field goal.
“The packets are here”
“the packets are with John Roberts-no, Obama-no, at the Pentagon”
I could, and MOST of our readership could understand, an occasional update. But you purposely fill up this message board with your shit-yes, shit.
You fill a news website with shit what happens? Viewership may drop, or it may be replaced with people with a taste for shit. Whether or not that happens what is guaranteed to happen is that OUR CREDIBILITY DROPS.
Now, I know RMN deals with issues nobody else will tackle. Morgellons. Hyperdimensional Physics and the enemy’s usage. The Factions. Forbidden history. Alternate health. Yes, TO A POINT the news on packets is valid; but you go way too far. Have been for months and so far you’ve had cover from the front office when someone rightly criticizes you.
We’re going into a deeper level of slavery in America with this Health Care nightmare… it’s a little hard to get that with this daily ridiculousness.
[quote]: – Posting Casper’s updates here allows folks a chance to say
: what they think about them, something they don’t really get
: at fourwinds. [/quote]
It clogs up the board! You don’t find me… when I was posting regularly until you bombed RMN with your packets crap… posting every single posting from everyone either still FOOLISHLY waiting on those deliveries or those laughing/disgusted at you bogarting RMN. Maybe Rayelan should rename it the Hobie show:)
[quote]: – Ceasing to post those until such time as deliveries occur
: actually makes no sense – as, _announcements_ are expected
: to follow deliveries, in which case the whole world is
: gonna know about it and we won’t need to post anything
: then. :) [/quote]
Wow. That’s a magnificent example of pretzel logic.
It would make with the BS hobie’s sources put out-and he diligently pollutes RMN with-that he shut the hell up about the packets UNTIL they’re delivered and then make all the announcements he/they want.
Except that this is most likely some kind of spook op. And hobie is most likely a spook himself. Hell, Rayelan was married to one so she’s essentially a spook herself-setting the Factions aside for once.
[quote]: Likewise, Poof expects to “fall silent” and give
: himself a well-earned vacation at that point and will no
: longer be sending his newsletters for anyone to post.
: Casper’s update may also cease at that point. [/quote]
Can he shut the fuck up now? Maybe find a hobby or get a drug habit or something?
This is why I basically stopped posting at Rumor Mill News.
Who can take this website-given the content-take this website seriously with Casper and the other spook douchebags? I can’t. Rayelan Allen brings in readers with her podcasts, and then they get to read your shit. Shit.
RDS2301 made a comment about your shit and got ganged up on.
Striderus-where’s he?
Ghostwolfmoon?
I am or probably soon be ‘was’ about the last voice of reason on this board.
[quote]: And, it’s expected there will be at least a brief
: “non-disclosure” period for the recipients – in
: which case, we may not even know when deliveries do occur.
: :) [/quote]
Whatever.
[quote]: Blessings.
: –hobie
[/quote]
Whatever.
P.S. I’m duplicating this on my websites
http://freedomguide.wordpress.com
http://freedomguide.blogspot.com
Whether or not Rumor Mill News retains me as an Agent is entirely up to them. As of now I find it hard to put any value to staying.
Anybody care to change my mind?
J. Croft
UPDATE:
I’ve been “decommissioned”:
Hi, J –
No surprise, I’m sure, but we thought about it, and no, we don’t care to
change your mind. You’re decommissioned as an RMN Agent.
We’re a bit saddened by it — you did “yeoman service” at RMN for a long
time, and we appreciate that.
Your several posts over the past day or so, however, showed clearly that
you were on the way out the door, no matter what. You did several things
that you really knew better than to do. Pick any one of those you like
as “the reason why” you’ve been decommissioned.
We wish you well.
Zapper
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Well, I guess calling people out is a no-no. Oh well RMN built their ship let them sink with it.
Now a word from an ex-Agent…
Oh you know what happened to me……sigh…..LOL
Ahhhhh and some do keep me abreast of …..ummmm ….interesting things….hahaha
haha did ya thrash his ass ? hahaha
sure em glad I’m not the only one smelling shot….. haha I was thinking it must have been from my pic of a piece of shit with omamba’s face on it…. ROTFLMAO..
yeeaappp I was a think’n the same thing….but as a Counter-Intelli front
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And a second:
Re: MORE MAIL CALL
hahahaha
Sorry J,
but hummer the ‘jew’ is a zionist pecker puffer living in beloit wisc…he’s
most likely one of the local drunks we cheeser’s have to deal with. I’m not
surprised to see he’s moved on to you …iMo he’s the disrupter to rmn from
jewland….”nazi” jewland.
It really interesting that the hobbit interject that the ghost clowns get to use
1st admendment protections but yet a few of us are NOT afforded the same….I
guess showing this half black POS-POTUS face on a turd is now anti-jew too.
Your alright J these people here USED everyone to make lots of money off the
begging cup. imo rmn is nothing but a counter-intelligence front. we’ll see over
time if thats true or not….but it HAS become a NNWO newage religious shit hole
rag mag crap site as charged by …another EX-agent Lonestar that was also given
the boot ….
I believe the complainer is Never Surrender ….because if you haven’t hread or
noticed ….there’s a EGO war going on at rmn for control…and guess who and
where has the most to gain since they’re sitting on a farm owned by rmn that was
“gifted” to raye in Ohio? …..hmmmmm
funny too is that hob and NS are the only two being paid at rmn….. the rest of
us are the chumps filling their pockets as my wife has for a few years been
squawking in my ears about posting there. she the one that pointed out to me
that they appear like an intell site….which is why I posted somethings the way
I did to test that theory…
their setting up patriots for the nazi-zionist jews…..imo
just let me know if you want my saved emails from my firing where the pricks can
NOT even keep their story straight about the reasons….sigh….hahaha
REPLY
Sure gimme the e-mails. I fell into the fallacy we’re supposed to be united but you can’t unite with backstabbers and con artists.
If it’s alright I’m going to post this-I won’t use your name but I need the update from former RMN agents.
Oh, did you know Alex Jones banned me from his forum? It’s true! Out of the blue. Guess he just wants people to get his prisonplanet memberships and chip ins as well.
Fuck all the shysters! I’m calling them all out!
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And another one…
J,
Thank you for your email….
I read your post and totally agree.
Striderus is gone. I have the complete string of back and forth emails
that occured until his account was closed. (he saved every one of them.)
Heard TheMythSmith is gone, too.
If you need a connect to Striderus, I can plug you in.
Definitely some kind of chaos going on so it seems in the front office.
Me?
I’m just a mushroom growing in shit.
But, when I peek out of the cave, it’s abundantly clear, is it not!
A few good folks get on a roll and then the bullshit posts start to
appear… a song here a packet there…. here a pack, there a
pack,everywhere a pack, pack……….geez!
Looking forward to talking with you at your different addy!
Best wishes!
Subject: your posting – followup -
J,
Thought your comments were right on.
And then ole hob posts another casper bullshit post. geez!
And to read his “helping you out the rmn door” comments at the end were what pretty well gave away the whole show.
Personally, I hope you stay on just to rub it in their faces.
There are a few of those who have been “fired” who email each other once in a while using non-rmn, private accounts.
You might want to start asking and collecting them while you still have access.
Once “fired” your entire account will go down including all active and archived articles and email.
Feel free to write to me at this email address if you have any questions, comments or how-dees!
Best wishes!
REPLY:
Already canned.
If you got e-mails of other shitcanned RMN Agents send em. We don’t need Rayelan and them other hustlers!
J
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And a reader who USED to value RMN for it’s one time focus on pertinent information:
Re: REPOST: DEAR HOBIE…(AND THE FUTURE OF RMN)
J, YOu points are most valid, I have sent similar emails to Hobie and of course
they are not posted in the reading room, Have also sent emails to Rayelan and
no reply there. Something in the past three years or so has caused a real
decline in the material posted. I have similar complaints about the mucsic that
Hobie posts, what does this have to do with rumor/news??? THe response is the
usual “many readers like the Casper, music poof and” other junk posts. This awas
a very good site until 0y or there abouts. There was recently( two or three
months) a”negative” post by another agent who ms. Raye then booted from the
site. I have watched many of the old info posters go by the wayside and we are
left with blather…maybe thats why they are constantly begging for money, oh
yeah I usually send an email when there are posts begging for money. I like to
let them know that I will not donate a cent until they get rid of the junk.
have a good one. joe
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And another reader lamenting on the RMN hustle:
Re: REPOST: DEAR HOBIE…(AND THE FUTURE OF RMN)
J,
Seems you are the only sane and true Patriot on RMN along with the former
member, Striderus. Over the three years of my viewership I have seen the RMN
energy level wane, the truth soddened with crap and socialist agents and, if it
were even possible, Raylen becoming even flakier and more desperate for money.
How is it that I have two websites, with their own domains and unlimited
bandwidth for a combined total of under $300 per year? Who and the heck is
‘that’ ignorant to fall for the endless appeal for $3,000/Month?!! She may be
likable but there is NOTHING she does to deserve making a living off that lame
RMN Advertisement whore of a website. Sure glad I never contributed and I do
quickly exit any post begging for $$$.
Yes, I know I don’t have to visit, but I assure you that my visits are quite
infrequent. I am for Pure Play Truth. That means if you don’t place the blame
for the World’s problems squarely at the feet of the Zionists and Zionist Jews,
YOU are part of the problem (not YOU as in J). Only posters on RMN such as you
conduct themselves in Pure Play.
I am a kindred spirit, J, and I am certainly prepared and capable of practicing
what I preach.
REPLY:
Thanks for the kind words.
Well, I lay with mangy dogs, I get the fleas.
Beware the “leaders” of this “movement”…
J
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And yet another Reader:
Re: MORE MAIL CALL
You and I agree on most things. I believe, unfortunately, that the repost of
that first e-mail reply to you is going to get you thrown off this site once
Hobie sees it. Maybe, I’ll see you somewhere else on the web.
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Oh and this is Hobie’s sendoff to me…
Hi, J -
The hope of a different future being held out by Casper and by Poof is opposite to the future you personally believe is coming – thus, to you, their material is “shit” and the Readers who do want that material to be available “have a taste for shit”.
You’re alleging that this material somehow “made” you stop posting regularly here. What really happened is that you made a personal sovereign choice, based on your likes and dislikes, to “take your ball and go home”.
Time was, every day, you’d post a large stack of free-standing messages, turning the place momentarily into the “J show”. But now you object to my posting Reader e-mails, threaded together so that folks are free to step over the whole thing if they want to – and you see that as the “hobie show”.
Don’t you get it? You’re projecting and mirroring, picking on things “out here” when you need to be looking “in there”. The whole thing is “an inside job”.
You’re apparently intent on making changes in your living and want to try burning a few bridges to see if it’ll help. No one could stop you from doing that if it’s your choice to do it. But in the end, it won’t help – because it’s not about those bridges, it’s about you.
You’re well aware that you’re acting in a way contrary to terms you agreed to on becoming an Agent, by thrashing about here in the Reading Room in the particular way that you’ve done it. Then, you say, it’s up to RMN whether you continue posting here. That’s dishonest. You’re trying to “resign by getting yourself decommissioned”, which would give an appearance that someone besides yourself holds responsibility for your departure.
Grow the hell up. This is what “free speech” looks like. There will probably always be people saying things that you personally don’t care for or do not believe. Your effort to get rid of speech you don’t care for is inherently elitist – it’s the same spirit that gave rise to the concepts of “hate speech” and “political correctness”.
If you’re unable to see this and feel you can’t abide with it, the course of integrity would be to resign, honorably, and not to set up a pretense that anyone but you is responsible for you.
–hobie
Yeah the nerve. That’s how they train spooks I suppose…
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CONCLUSION
Basically I got hosed. Punk’d.
I should have connected the dots when I offered Rayelan Allen a cut off the pay of videos-no out of pocket expenses for her… which she DECLINED.
I should have definitely connected the dots when Rayelan referred me to one of her friends who wanted to publish my articles as a book-she tried to hustle me and give all the money to Rayelan.
I finally got it through my thick head with the constant appeals for cash like a televangelist. Offered suggestions and well… she still begged even though she’s got like a hundred ads on her site and the worst pop-ups.
For what? Fairy tales about packets and trivia. And baseless attacks on Alex Jones out of jealousy and not for good reason.
And when you use your 1st to call them on it, you get banned.
Judge everyone by their fruits…
Sunday, March 21, 2010
HEALTH CARE-I HOPE IT PASSES! UPDATE... YOU KNOW, IT PASSED-AND A REFLECTION ON MY REACTION.
First, I'm not buying health care. I'm out of the system anyway but even supposing I were-I wouldn't. They're pulling the same crap they did with auto insurance back in the 90's and I'm not having that either. I will not be coerced into jack, even if they got guns on me.
Which leads to my Second-I'll use my 2nd. I've been using my 1st for the last 5 years but that doesn't seem to work too well with folks. Now I'll have a lot of busybody bureaucrats and their tin badge god Oath Traitors try to convince me otherwise-OPSEC.
Third, I'm actually glad this bill is going to pass. This is the government's naked power grab we've been waiting for the past... however long you reckon it. Now it's put up or shut the fuck up time for everyone. All the bullies in government, all the uberpatriot chest beaters, all the braggarts everywhere now let's see who is going to do what.
Political struggle doesn't work-because of a lot of reasons, too many of them on us. Let the bullets fly.
update: I felt so disgusted by how American Communism was instituted and made operational I thought I would just stop writing like Paul Craig Roberts and... well, I got to do something to screw with the beast even if I done with the new age carnie act at RMN and Alex Jones. I'm going to do more with Freedom Guide. I'll make my work memorable.
Which leads to my Second-I'll use my 2nd. I've been using my 1st for the last 5 years but that doesn't seem to work too well with folks. Now I'll have a lot of busybody bureaucrats and their tin badge god Oath Traitors try to convince me otherwise-OPSEC.
Third, I'm actually glad this bill is going to pass. This is the government's naked power grab we've been waiting for the past... however long you reckon it. Now it's put up or shut the fuck up time for everyone. All the bullies in government, all the uberpatriot chest beaters, all the braggarts everywhere now let's see who is going to do what.
Political struggle doesn't work-because of a lot of reasons, too many of them on us. Let the bullets fly.
update: I felt so disgusted by how American Communism was instituted and made operational I thought I would just stop writing like Paul Craig Roberts and... well, I got to do something to screw with the beast even if I done with the new age carnie act at RMN and Alex Jones. I'm going to do more with Freedom Guide. I'll make my work memorable.
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