http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/september/152865/84-year-old-vet-suffers-broken-neck-after-police-takedown
ORLANDO -- An elderly man is in critical condition after being thrown to the ground by a police officer.
It happened Saturday night near North Orange Avenue after police say Daniel Daley put his hands on the cop.
The World War II veteran is out of surgery. He suffered an injury doctors at Florida Hospital say only about 10 percent of people are lucky enough to survive.
Daley left the Caboose Bar and headed to his car across the street Saturday night.
Witnesses say the 84-year-old was upset when he saw his car was about to be towed.
The Ivanhoe Grocery owner recently posted signs warning drivers because customers of other businesses were parking in their spots.
Several people, who didn't want to go on camera, say it has led to plenty of arguments the past few weeks, but none with the potentially deadly consequences that happened Saturday.
The police were called and say Daley, who'd been drinking, put his hands on the officer.
Witnesses say he put his hands on the officer three times and the cop warned him to stop each time.
Police say Daley made a fist and said ‘I'm not leaving until I knock this cop out.’
Another witness says the officer then violently hip checked him and took him to the ground.
Daley ended up in Florida Hospital with a broken neck.
There's nothing that deals with the elderly in the Orlando Police Department’s use of force policy. However, it does define imminent danger as a situation that could lead to death or great bodily harm.
An Orlando police sergeant and spokesperson said this situation should qualify as imminent danger, but many residents don't think so.
"I don't think anyone needs to be thrown to the ground and have their neck broken because they were parked in the wrong spot,” said Gabby Aparacio, store customer. “I mean he's an old man. It doesn't matter if you've been drinking or not. How belligerent can you be?"
"I know when I get angry, I ball my fist. It doesn't mean I'm going to hit you. I think he had no right to do so,” said Nataya Benway.
As part of standard procedure, internal investigators will look at whether the officer complied with the department’s use of force policy.
It happened Saturday night near North Orange Avenue after police say Daniel Daley put his hands on the cop.
The World War II veteran is out of surgery. He suffered an injury doctors at Florida Hospital say only about 10 percent of people are lucky enough to survive.
Daley left the Caboose Bar and headed to his car across the street Saturday night.
Witnesses say the 84-year-old was upset when he saw his car was about to be towed.
The Ivanhoe Grocery owner recently posted signs warning drivers because customers of other businesses were parking in their spots.
Several people, who didn't want to go on camera, say it has led to plenty of arguments the past few weeks, but none with the potentially deadly consequences that happened Saturday.
The police were called and say Daley, who'd been drinking, put his hands on the officer.
Witnesses say he put his hands on the officer three times and the cop warned him to stop each time.
Police say Daley made a fist and said ‘I'm not leaving until I knock this cop out.’
Another witness says the officer then violently hip checked him and took him to the ground.
Daley ended up in Florida Hospital with a broken neck.
There's nothing that deals with the elderly in the Orlando Police Department’s use of force policy. However, it does define imminent danger as a situation that could lead to death or great bodily harm.
An Orlando police sergeant and spokesperson said this situation should qualify as imminent danger, but many residents don't think so.
"I don't think anyone needs to be thrown to the ground and have their neck broken because they were parked in the wrong spot,” said Gabby Aparacio, store customer. “I mean he's an old man. It doesn't matter if you've been drinking or not. How belligerent can you be?"
"I know when I get angry, I ball my fist. It doesn't mean I'm going to hit you. I think he had no right to do so,” said Nataya Benway.
As part of standard procedure, internal investigators will look at whether the officer complied with the department’s use of force policy.
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- 09-19-2010 12:20 PMdontcallmeradioBroken Neck from takedown
ORLANDO, Fla. -- An 84-year-old veteran was taken to the hospital Saturday night in critical condition after a confrontation with an Orlando Police officer.
The officer was dispatched to a bar on North Orange Avenue south of Princeton Street around 11pm Saturday night, after reports that 84-year-old Daniel Daley was arguing with a tow truck driver.
Witnesses say Daley touched the officer several times during the argument, and in response the officer slammed him to the ground.
One witness described the officer has having "hip-checked" the man and throwing him to the pavement.
Daley was taken to the hospital with a broken neck and remained in critical condition Su - 09-19-2010 12:56 PMmadchiken
Keep your hands to yourself and bad things won't happen.
- 09-19-2010 01:01 PMbrad601
Tow truck driver must not of taken the AARP card.
- 09-19-2010 01:25 PMArmyDiver
Guy was old enough to know how to listen and was a veteran... which means he knows how to respect authority. He wouldn't be in this situation if he'd simply done as told. He must have been quite confrontational to be "slammed to the ground" or "hip-checked." I love the media...
- 09-19-2010 01:56 PMExodus259
That's one hell of a slam, lol. He wasn't Brock Lesnar, was he? lmao
- 09-19-2010 02:06 PMJustsaying
I have never heard of hip-checked. Part of me says why push an old man down. I guess a drunk old man can still be nasty and give a mean punch. I think of my dad who is in his 80s and being pushed to the ground would really hurt him, but the only people he has ever hit was my two sisters and me and that stopped when were were teens.
- 09-19-2010 02:47 PMRudy8116
I've seen video of a 76 year old shoot and kill a cop. Without video, I will refrain from judgement.
- 09-19-2010 02:57 PMbrad601
^^^^^^ +1
I agree 100% without being there first hand I am not going to quarterback someone elses desision. Hell some of the old WWII vets at my post get a few beers in them and they become 10 ft tall and bullet proof. Especially the jar heads. - 09-19-2010 03:02 PMDAL
I recommend that older people not get drunk, and avoid arguing with the police.
- 09-19-2010 03:07 PMcrass copThis...and also, anyone see the video of the "old man" who pounds a younger thug on a city bus??? A member of the "greatest generation" should have known better...I dont care who you are, however, or how old you are...you DONT touch the po-leece!Quote:
Originally Posted by madchiken
- 09-19-2010 04:40 PMTheChef
I feel sorry for the cop. He's got to be second guessing his own actions here. Even if the geezer lives (which is highly unlikely) he's not gonna be playin shuffle board any more, & the cop will play this scene in his mind every minute for weeks (probably longer) to come. It's a cryin shame the jack *** put him in this situation in the first place.
- 09-19-2010 05:01 PMadeutch
Police take 'em as they come. The officer doesn't get to choose who he gets called out on. Being 86 years old might warrant an extra warning or two in case he's hard of hearing, but after that the officer has a job to do.
My father is one of those people who's fallin apart as he gets older. He's in his 60's. He's knees are just about shot. He has breathing problems due to asthma and years of smoking. And if you threw him to the ground it could quite possibly break some bones. But if he thinks he's right, he won't back down from anyone. Last year a door to door soliciter gave him lip when told to f- off and got his azz thrown off the back porch. Being frail doesn't mean they can't hurt you and doesn't make them deserving of special treatment when it comes to the officer's safety. - 09-19-2010 05:05 PMdbphotosYep, age is no true indication of threat. I'll also have to wait and see the video to make a determination. Unlike some in the media I form my opinions based on facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy8116
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPDeiQFfZs - 09-19-2010 10:01 PMwirefire2
I'm sure alcohol was a factor. Some people just don't know how to drink.
- 09-19-2010 10:53 PMSgt. SlaughterThrough the lips, over the gums;Quote:
Originally Posted by wirefire2
Look out stomach, here it comes!!!
Idk...seems pretty easy to me. :D - 09-20-2010 12:48 AMJustsaying
That video was hard to watch and hearing the breathing changes then stop made me feel sick.
- 09-20-2010 12:42 PMJustsaying
I thought of this video today, it really bothered me. I just did a search and the man that shot Vetter is just pure evil. I found an article posted 4 yeras after the shooting. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/MYS...wFullArticle=y
Some people have no heart, I am glad his wife has been able to move on with her life. - 09-21-2010 12:05 AMjciocckeWell Played and Great Memory. I loved that videoQuote:
This...and also, anyone see the video of the "old man" who pounds a younger thug on a city bus??? A member of the "greatest generation" should have known better...I dont care who you are, however, or how old you are...you DONT touch the po-leece!
- 09-21-2010 02:46 AMRetired Deputy
Kids and old folks can kill you just as dead as a 19 year old gang-banger. Any time something like this happens, it is a no win situation for the officer, and a field day for the media and the lawyers.
When you add to this, the possible senior dementia, with or without substance abuse it can get real ugly, real quick.
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Evil people keep doing evil acts because nobody stops them.
Think about that.
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