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Monday, August 22, 2011
AWRM GUNRUNNER UPDATE: GOV. GUN SMUGGLERS PROMOTED... SO WHATTO DO?
quote:The
ATF has promoted three key supervisors of a controversial sting
operation that allowed firearms to be illegally trafficked across the
U.S. border into Mexico.
All three have been heavily criticized
for pushing the program forward even as it became apparent that it was
out of control. At least 2,000 guns were lost and many turned up at
crime scenes in Mexico and two at the killing of a U.S. Border Patrol
agent in Arizona.
The three supervisors have been given new
management positions at the agency's headquarters in Washington. They
are William G. McMahon, who was the ATF's deputy director of operations
in the West, where the illegal trafficking program was focused, and
William D. Newell and David Voth, both field supervisors who oversaw the
program out of the agency's Phoenix office....
Score another one for the forces of evil and stupidity.
Onward and upward, airforce
Posts: 8142 | From: Tulsa | Registered: Jan 2002
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quote:The
ATF has promoted three key supervisors of a controversial sting
operation that allowed firearms to be illegally trafficked across the
U.S. border into Mexico.
All three have been heavily criticized
for pushing the program forward even as it became apparent that it was
out of control. At least 2,000 guns were lost and many turned up at
crime scenes in Mexico and two at the killing of a U.S. Border Patrol
agent in Arizona.
The three supervisors have been given new
management positions at the agency's headquarters in Washington. They
are William G. McMahon, who was the ATF's deputy director of operations
in the West, where the illegal trafficking program was focused, and
William D. Newell and David Voth, both field supervisors who oversaw the
program out of the agency's Phoenix office....
Score another one for the forces of evil and stupidity.
Onward and upward, airforce
Typical fed.gov promotion scheme:
F*ck up
Cover up
Shut up
Move up
BATFE and DOJ are waving this sh*t in our faces, as if to say, "What are you gonna do about it?"
What
will it take to end this egregious injustice, blatant corruption, and
lucrative rewards system for the absolute worst that "law enforcement"
has to offer humanity?
-------------------- I
would gladly lay aside the use of arms and settle matters by
negotiation, but unless the whole will, the matter ends, and I take up
my battle rifle, and thank God that He has put it within my grasp.
Audit Fort Knox! Posts: 3149 | From: Philistine Occupied CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 08-21-2011 06:14 AM
Rep. Issa is a nice man who exposed this illegal action by the government.
Now, what is he going to do about those who violated the Constitution ? Three have already received promotions and raises.
Bottom
line, more talk, no action. He has the evidence. So, why isn't he
even mentioning criminal prosecution ? The only time he mentioned doing
anything is over the obstruction complaint against the DOJ for
stonewalling His Committee, and hurting the Committee's ego. There is
more to this than their ego !
Politicians all !
[ 08-21-2011, 06:16 AM: Message edited by: fal3 ]
-------------------- ---------------------------------- "Take heed: watch and pray, for ye know not when the time is." -- Mark 13:33. Posts: 2491 | From: East of the Pacific | Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 08-21-2011 07:13 PM
Imagrunt is right, this whole thing is getting waved in our faces by the "sovereign immunity" above-the-law crowd.
Word
I got from a guy from AZ is the place involved with this is J&G
sales which is a very high volume outfit that does both retail and
wholesale, and their idea of "cooperating fully" for the last few years
has been to collect information on all purchases, of all guns and
ammunition, and turning it over to the ATF, this even includes
everything down to a box of 22 shells.
I know people go got
busted and did prison time for selling a few guns to a "friend" who was
posing as a resident of another state, when in fact, the "friend" was an
ATF infiltration agent and having a criminal record was not the issue
(none involved had a prior record).
A single three gun purchase
is enough to "bust" someone who is a prior felon, although I hear the
feds prefer to get the felon on selling the guns rather than buying
them, as they did in a big pawnshop sting here in Portland recently.
The feds were running a pawnshop/headshop which was taking guns in trade
for stuff like meth cooking gear and car stereos, giving out the
reputation they would buy any and all guns. Lots of felons got burned
walking in and selling/trading guns on closed circuit camera. They got
something like 20 cases out of keeping the place open for only six
months and never distributed any guns anywhere, just bought guns. They
even nailed some tweaker who had traded in a Sten gun for some cash and
other head shop stuff like a substance used to dilute (cut) meth.
Apparently,
these "cartel" guys were given some preference at J&G sales, going
in about every week to buy guns, and sometimes along with their
handler/agent just to make sure it all went smoothly. How they
privelage outright dope pushing felons at that level and then continue
to deny basic rights to guys like Bladrunner and a few others here who
got burned is beyond my tolerance level.
-------------------- Life liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten them. Posts: 1525 | From: Oregon | Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 08-22-2011 01:04 PM
I know a few things we can do about it:
1.)Boycott J&G. They
want to get in bed with the traitors in Washington; facilitate
compiling intel on Americans arming up, aid and abet arresting said
Americans, steal their weapons so they can be transferred from ATF
inventories to murderous drug cartels-along with whatever truckloads of
arms and ammunition those Elmer Fuckers outright sell to them?
Shun
them. Spread the word of a boycott. Use the bluntest language you
can, use images of murdered Mexicans and incarcerated Americans to
emphasize the point. It will be you tomorrow.
2.)I'll repeat
this point; we must, MUST find like-minded souls both across the border
and among the Mexican Diaspora in America. Find common cause because
the enemy wants to dismember our country by sparking a race war. About
all the Mexicans I've encountered in the past few years have been
reserved and polite; they are not stupid.
All you have to do is
find someone to talk to, get a conversation going, because both our
peoples are being hurt by this. You find those people, I'm sure you
know where to go from there.
3.)Do not let them sweep this under
the rug or wave it in our faces with impunity. We must never forget
Operation Gunrunner, just like we will never forget 9/11... however way
you want to remember that.
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