IS RON PAUL A RINGER?

IS RON PAUL A RINGER?
update 2/10/08

J. Croft

This is a horrible possibility, but one that must be considered because at least some of Ron Paul’s supporters are now thinking this after the debacle of the rigged Super Tuesday primary.

But let's back up month before; the New Hampshire primary was rigged in large part due to political hacks at the local level acting to destroy votes as evidenced in Sutton and Greenbriar. Vote scamming is a time honored American political tradition as exposed by the Collier brothers in their groundbreaking book Votescam: the stealing of America.(btw, good luck finding it in a bookstore, you’ll have to look on the internet.)

Diebold electronic voting machines add a new wrinkle: they use proprietary code and are so easily accessed by modem or opening the machines themselves, they’re designed to steal elections. The CEO of Diebold has strong ties to the Bush/Clinton crime families, even stating in 2004 that he’d “work to get George W. Bush reelected”.

This level of corruption was to be expected and in fact a lot of Ron Paul supporters were steeling themselves. Steeling themselves to fight for a proper count, a proper vote tally-an honest view of Americans in this most critical of election seasons.

Apparently someone forgot to pass that memo on to Ron Paul who despite collecting over twelve million dollars up to then decided to concentrate his campaign’s efforts on later primaries in Michigan, South Carolina, Nevada-where he had the rug pulled out from under him as well.

...Super Tuesday-was Dr. Paul hoping for a miracle? Was he hoping the documented convicted drug dealers and other sundry officials directly overseeing the Diebold machines suddenly have their hearts grow three sizes and run an honest election? Was he hoping the megacorporate owned mainstream media actually gives him equal access, equal time, equal treatment?

Was he hoping that the Bush/Clinton crime family whose crony runs Diebold, will also have a miraculous change of heart and run a fair election, not have the votes altered or deleted? Was Dr. Paul hoping for “somehow” some kind of Hollywood ending this year?

As I write this I have his latest (2.09.08) communique and my first reaction comments.

From Rense-my thoughts below:

Ron Paul - 'There Will Be No Third Party Run' Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat Message from Ron Paul 2-9-8

Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well.

Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen.

In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.

Sincerely,
Ron

Excuse me for being critical, but if you read between the lines this sounds like a carefully worded concession speech.

I don't know what to think; did Ron Paul seriously think that if all he did was present his ideals, the path to victory would just present itself?

Dr. Paul's not a stupid man by any means. He knew about the massive vote fraud, the corruption of the mainstream media... yet he went in with a campaign strategy that looks like he assumed it was actually a level playing field!

Evidence is mounting rapidly that Super Tuesday was run fraudulantly. Massive vote fraud from coast to coast.

This lastest communication by Ron gives me NO indication that he's even going to challenge it-just some nice sounding platitudes, and promises that the fight will go on....

I've held an essay back about this situation but this demands I look at it. Expect it next week.
J. Croft

Does Ron Paul strike you as being that naïve, that stupid, that he'd just waltz into ambush after ambush? I don't think he is. He's obviously one of the smartest politicians currently serving....

Deep Cover Operative: someone tasked with infiltrating a group or movement, maneuver into a prominent position, rendering years, decades of loyal service to the targeted foe. When the time comes he or she moves to sabotage or otherwise destroy the movement they had so seemingly, faithfully served. What I’m saying is that deep cover operatives to be successful have to be the most successful members of the opposing force. This definition may describe Ron Paul better than being a ringer because of his near canonization by the Patriot movement-but ringer sounded better as the title to this regrettably necessary article.

So, is Ron Paul a deep cover operative? A ringer? Is there any evidence of these charges?

Beyond his recent conduct, there is. However, any evidence of someone being a ringer is usually scant at best-and if they’re good, so scant it can be more reasonably deduced that the evidence is indicative of say, bad judgement, fatigue, confusion, personality quirks.

So what’s the evidence?

EVIDENCE?

Campaign staff mishandling of primary vote fraud debacle-or conspiracy?

A lot of angry voices have arisen over Ron Paul’s apparent decision not to challenge the now obviously fraudulant New Hampshire primary. Furthermore, his campaign staff have according to accounts reported by Devvy Kidd have shown annoyance at the efforts to get a recount. They, deriving much of their support from web based people are simply swamped to begin with.

Ron Paul websites abound:
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/
http://www.dailypaul.com/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

http://www.ronpaulforum.com/
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/

…I could go on but I’ll get to the point; there are hundreds of thousands of people trying to get the attention of a tiny staff, and the sheer volume must be maddening. Picture using a fire hose to fill a shot glass. Picture yourself being the shot glass and you’re picturing yourself as a Ron Paul campaign staffer.

Not to mention the flak he’s gotten for not acting on the OBVIOUS VOTE FRAUD perpretrated in subsequent primaries.

Ron Paul: secretly allied with the enemy?

Some would say that the most solid evidence-aside from not challenging New Hampshire vote fraud-would be the incident last year where upon entering the studio where the Daily Show is produced, Ron Paul made the following hand gesture:

Copied from The Truth Seeker website: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7603

Is Ron Paul All That He Seems?
News Brief – November 30, 2007
Introductory Update – February 9, 2008Late last night, Ron Paul conceded his place in the presidential race and did so quoting Trotsky, of all people. If nothing else this only emphasises suspicions outlined in the article below. A similar ruse has been tried on British voters. When the British National Party, led by a known intelligence asset, campaigned on issues of “patriotism” and “anti-immigration”. As it turned out the BNP did absolutely on the latter point but it effectively led disaffected voters up a blind alley. Where it then left them. Thereby neutering any feelings of discontent among voters before they could coalesce in a genuine, popular political movement. This is how the voting public is now manipulated in the West. Seems like Ron Paul has just pulled a similar trick on American voters.
Is Ron Paul All That He Seems?Although completely ignored by the mainstream media, the El Diablo hand sign has become a trademark for success in U.S. politics. From Dan Quayle and Bill Clinton to George W. Bush, right down to Bush's wife and daughters, just about every major player in American politics has been caught flaunting the El Diablo salute. Now one of few U.S. politicians with any apparent semblance integrity has been spotted displaying the same hand signal. The videos linked below are pretty inconclusive and prove nothing either way. But the photo clearly shows Paul displaying the now infamous hand signal.

We leave it for readers to decide if Paul is consciously signalling his true allegiance or whether this is just a simple coincidence. It may be entirely innocent, unlike the Bush family who have been photographed repeatedly and quite brazenly flauntinging the El Diablo salute, as was the case at George W. Bush's last inauguration.


Ron Paul on the other hand may have simply been waving harmlessly, unaware of the real significance of the exact gesture. The arguement that the gesture is simply a signal of support for the University of Texas Longhorns is simply a crock. Former Italian leader Belusconi has also been pictured making the gesture, along with other prominent international figures, and we are pretty sure that they are not all Texas Lonhorn supporters. Admittedly the photo, pulled from an Internet video, is not of the highest quality, so perhaps we should not read too much into it. Nonetheless, the El Diablo hand sign or satanic salute has become a feature of American politics and it’s as well to be aware of it as and when it appears. So for the time being this web site will reserve judgement on Ron Paul but would suggest readers bear this in mind. For the Illuminati have a history of fielding political candidates who appear to oppose the New World Order but whose real function is to lead opposition to the Illuminati in entirely the wrong direction, thereby neutralising it. Only time will tell whether Ron Paul is one such. And to those readers who were offended by this report: we reserve judgement on Ron Paul and the photo but America is in such dire straights politically because its politicians are no longer held to account for their actions. This is precisely why the likes of Bush and Cheney are currently in the White House and things wont change until ordinary Americans hold their leaders to account. Below, links to videos sent in by a reader: www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5HWR8NdIoM&watch_response This video shows Ron Paul flashing it as he comes up to the podium and there is a close up of it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpnajrx7FGM www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkVJtz0bNI www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjpjUZBcsss www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0xhPGA7EXQ
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A hand gesture? Evidence of betrayal? You’re laughing, but many haven’t. Bush, Clinton, and many other “dignitaries” make the Il Cornuto hand signal all the time in the most inappropriately public places.

http://www.conspiracyworld.com/index0123.htm

Many suspect this is a secret visual code a sign of loyalty to a hidden agenda. A signal that is particularly ominous when made with the left hand-and Ron Paul did flash that hand signal with his left hand.

Well, let’s step back from this and look in context; Ron Paul was promoting his campaign on nationwide television, on a very popular talk show. He’s getting the most attention he’s ever had in his life-of course he’s excited! Just like most people get excited at rock concerts and when the guitar hero flashes the Il Cornuto they also think it’s a “rock on” gesture and imitate them… along with regrettably their lack of fiscal discipline and hard drug abuse.

Frankly, I included this because I had to address my own personal suspicions but upon review I must say that the charge of Ron Paul being a ringer, a deep cover operative is no longer ridiculous-it has to be treated as a possibility, because the future of America depends on what we do.

So… is Ron Paul a ringer? A deep cover operative who when a critical mass of the People awaken and saw how their Country has been stolen from them would go in as a “man atop a white horse” and subtly sabotage a reform movement by failing "gracefully" rather than fight the obvious corruption?

So, is Ron Paul a ringer, a deep cover operative?

This isn't easy but we must see things clearly. We contributed MILLIONS out of our own pockets because we saw in Dr. Paul the chance to save our country peacefully! I see the man’s voting record. I’ve watched him on the debates. I’ve listened to him, his son Rand on the Alex Jones Show and read his articles over the years. The thought of him being a ringer, a deep cover operative is a horrifying possibility that it must be spoken of!

If he really was a Deep Cover Operative, a Ringer to squelch the "elite" expected backlash from a cornered and desperate American People he did magnificently! A once growing movement became splintered between those wanting Ron Paul to do a third party run and those who wanted Dr. Paul to maintain a Republican based strategy.

The Republican strategy as Dr. Paul noted himself, was blown to hell with Mitt Romney's capitulation.

Any third party strategy was blown to hell by Dr. Paul himself when he opted to maintain his Republican party status to maintain his congressional seat.

It certainly doesn't help when the premier figure in the Freedom movement, Alex Jones, does a shuck and jive for what's becoming manifestly apparent-that Ron Paul is now trying to gracefully quit:

Why Has Ron Paul All But Suspended His Presidential Campaign?Congressman makes a shrewd decision to safeguard amazing progress made by retaining Congressional seat
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex JonesPrison PlanetSaturday, February 8th, 2008

digg_title = 'Why Has Ron Paul All But Suspended His Presidential Campaign?';
digg_bodytext = 'Congressman Ron Pauls decision to essentially suspend his presidential campaign and focus instead on safeguarding his Congressional seat will confuse and disappoint many of his supporters, while delighting establishment media debunkers, but the truth of how far we have progressed and the reality of the battles that lie ahead show that the campaign has made a shrewd decision.';
Congressman Ron Paul's decision to essentially suspend his presidential campaign and focus instead on safeguarding his Congressional seat will confuse and disappoint many of his supporters, while delighting establishment media debunkers, but the truth of how far we have progressed and the reality of the battles that lie ahead show that the campaign has made a shrewd decision.
After months of media censorship, smear attacks and dirty tricks, Ron Paul was essentially left with four choices.
- Drop out of the Republican race altogether and allow the establishment to claim a hollow victory while disappointing his legions of supporters. This was never going to happen.
- Drop out of the Republican race and run as a third party candidate. Up against Hillary and McCain, Paul would have had a 20-30% chance of success but would have immediately endangered his Congressional seat.
- Seek to capitalize on a brokered convention should the Republican's conservative base move against the left-leaning John McCain. This was always a remote option because to have any chance of success, Paul would have had to be trailing McCain by just a few percentage points in the primary results, which was not the case.
(Article continues below)
- Stay in the presidential race in the hope that a scandal would cripple McCain and leave Paul going head to head with Huckabee but essentially shift all campaigning efforts to focus on his Congressional seat which is now under threat.
Paul rightfully picked the fourth option and in doing so has adopted a rearguard stance to safeguard the influence he has already accrued as a result of appearing in the debates on the campaign trail. Should he retain his seat, Paul will return to Congress with the backing of a gigantic grass roots following the likes of which has not been enjoyed by any other politician in recent times.
The Congressman summed it up in this passage of his press release last night.
"I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen."
Paul's Texas District 14 congressional seat is being challenged by pro-war Neo-Con Chris Peden, who deceived the Congressman by going back on his word that he wouldn't run against Paul during the presidential race. The Paul campaign have evaluated the circumstances and the consequences of losing the Congressional seat and have responded accordingly.
In shifting the focus of his campaign, Paul will still be able to use the millions raised in his name to hold his district and he will still appear in national debates to educate people about the real power structure that seeks to control and dominate us.
Undoubtedly a certain portion of Ron Paul supporters will feel disappointed and let down by the fact that the Congressman is all but suspending his presidential campaign and most of these individuals will be new to politics. They need to understand that we can not and will not win the game with the first roll of the dice. America was not gutted overnight and it will not be restored overnight.

The Ron Paul Revolution was the first major salvo in a battle for our freedom that will never end. What we are fighting is a war of ideas, an information war and a game of brinkmanship. The fact that Ron Paul's message resonated with and woke up millions of people is a victory in itself and provides us a niche with which to continue our efforts.
The focus now shifts to the Congressional race and if we can help Ron Paul retain his seat then the power of our message will be amplified in Congress, especially if and when Hillary Clinton is anointed in the White House and continues the same policies we saw under Bush.
It is essential and shrewd to maintain a positive attitude and consider how far along the path we have traveled in the pursuit of restoring liberty. A powerful message has been broadcast to those who would attempt to enslave us that there will be a reaction and that our numbers and influence will only continue to grow, presidential race or no presidential race.
As we have said all along - this is not about a political campaign, this is not about 2008 and this is not even about Ron Paul. This is about an idea, an idea that surpasses the transitory nature of a presidential election and one which can not and will not be stopped no matter what the circumstances.
As Ron Paul himself says,
"This Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked."

So what conclusion does one make by the man's actions?

What Dr. Paul, do we make of the decisions you've made?

You took the last best hope of Americans who were counting you to be the proverbial man on a white horse and you've wrecked them.

No more money bombs for you. None. In fact you've managed to knock hell out of all the credibility you've had, and by giving this signal to quit confirmed our worst fears. That is, if you just keep going along with some script...

WHAT TO DO?

We for now on, RECORD OUR OWN VOTES WITH CAMCORDERS AND STAGE OUR OWN AUDITING OF OUR OWN VOTES! This way, there’s a record not even a voting machine made for vote fraud can alter.

What Dr. Paul must do however, is WHEN the crime family that runs Diebold, which runs the vote fraud machines, when they steal another primary vote… he must act and act with fury! Call for paper ballots, recounts, criminal charges, mass civil protests-whatever’s necessary to pull the curtain back and expose the Bush/Clinton crime family’s control… corruption… of OUR ELECTIONS.

FURTHERMORE, and he needs to be doing this anyway, Dr. Paul absolutely must use every bit of his persuasiveness to get people to run for public office themselves-particularly in those jurisdictions where vote fraud was committed. Call for an emergency recall election along with filing civil and criminal charges in both state and federal courts. I offer my recommendations on how to conduct such a campaign in my essay “Message to the Ron Paul Campain”.

Patriots are thin on the ground, so efforts must be concentrated on the worst, most corrupt little burgs. Examples must be made. More importantly, for Dr. Paul, a political machine must be built NOW so that when he becomes president he’ll have government support at local and hopefully state level.

Either that, or Ron Paul needs to drop out of the race, return all the money bombs to those he accepted from and retire from Congress. We the American People have suffered too much at the hands of the traitors in control of the United States Government to tolerate anyone who is just running “to prove a point” or “bring issues to the forefront”.

AND WHAT IF RON PAUL IS A RINGER?

That makes him a traitor on a horrifyingly grand scale! Imagine: giving lip service to the Patriot Movement for decades; knowing in the larger scheme of Congressional matters you were one lone voice anyway… Grooming yourself, building trust until the fateful time when the American People began to arise to cast off their change-and as the lone Congressional standard bearer of Freedom you in your dotting old age arise to give battle… only you knew ahead of time that you’d stumble and fall anyway.

It's like this people; WE are our only hope of salvation from the beast! Not some compromised ringer on a white horse, certainly not Ron Paul.

You tired of hearing about innocent crime victims like Hope Steffey being arrested, brutalized and practically raped by thugs? You tired of local hack politicians-gangsters really-covering for them while advancing the agendas of communists and banksters, and taking in a portion of what they STEAL from you?

Look up "Message to the Patriot Movement", "Message to the Ron Paul Campaign", and "Message to Mr. and Mr. America" at my blog http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/, form a campaign, take that money you were going to spend on Ron Paul to finance it. Find the worst little turd berg of a town and concentrate your efforts on cleaning EVERYBODY out! Gut the laws, fire all the thug cops, return all the money stolen back to the People.

If you're still reading this Dr. Paul, I strongly suggest you take that money bomb cash and finance a campaign to overthrow all the primary results.

Alex Jones: time to hold the man responsible. We in the Freedom Movement must have NO TOLERANCE for ringers... if Dr. Paul is a ringer... or maybe YOU need to step aside. You're suspect anyway; go to his prisonplanet.com forum. They have maybe ten percent of the traffic they did when it started last August, because Alex likes to have homeland security wannabes censor dissent. If you're going to stand for Freedom you have to honestly do it, or we'll cast you aside.

And you too, Dr. Paul...

If you are a ringer Dr. Paul...

I wonder what kind of reward such a man would have in this world. I wonder what kind of punishment such a “man” could have after this world; will they have to build a tenth circle of hell just for such a traitor?

IMPORTANT UPDATE:

I know what all of you are asking: what the hell got into me to post such a article?
I'll tell you, somewhere in the back of my mind I knew this campaign was going to get stiff-armed, and our attempt to use this utterly corrupt system to get what we HOPE is an honorable man in as president... it was pathetic-like watching the high school football team pull pranks on or otherwise beat up the school nerd.
Nerd. I think there's more than vote fraud going on-not getting into the thought yet that he's a ringer, but Ron Paul in those debates came off as nervous and weak, going over subjects Americans SHOULD know, but DON'T WANT TO BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PROGRAMMED TO BE AND THINK LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM.
What am I saying? I didn't want to post it, but after reading Ron Paul's carefully worded concession speech yesterday, I had to put the subject of whether he was a ringer out. I had to get the debate going whether he was a ringer or something else.
Anyway, some e-mail replies I got about my post. My replies in BOLD.
Re: IS RON PAUL A RINGER?
You are saying what must be said.
Good for you.
I doubt he is a "ringer."
Too much history as an "American."
I HOPE TO GOD YOU'RE RIGHT!
CODE MESSAGE FROM RON PAUL
J, I would like you to post what you can of all the following.
DONE I have read your posts since you became an RM agent, and we have a lot in common. I doubted Ron Paul from the beginning, knowing, of course, he has worked within the system for so many years. B-U-T, regardless of who he really is, remember he was a Libertarian candidate back in 1988. He's honestly tried to get issues out, and he has done so brilliantly. Even if he has had handlers, maybe he has been double-crossing them. How will we ever know? BUT DOES IT MATTER? WHAT REALLY MATTERS?
I want to see the MOMENTUM that characterizes the Ron Paul Populist Campaign DEVELOP into a demand for 9-11 Truth and the Exposure of the Government Mafia that has stolen every election since I was old enough to vote.
THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THE MOVEMENT TO ASSUME IT'S OWN LEADERSHIP-EVERYONE MUST BECOME A SELF MOTIVATED LEADER WILLING TO HELP OTHERS.
Telling people all of a sudden to work alone in their own communities to put their names on ballots to clean up their own city hall is BULLROAR. They will get no votes in that "Independent" black hole of the ballot. They are not the community Masons! They are probably already perceived as oddballs around town. Come on!
NOT THEM, IF THEY ARE THE COMMUNITY ODDBALLS BUT "UPSTANDING CITIZENS". I KNOW EVERY TOWN HAS A GOOD OL BOY NETWORK.
But resistance is NOT futile. To this end, I have written the following:
Under the subject title below, I have posted the following on http://www.rayelan.com/ and on http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/
PLEASE put this up on the main RM board:
CODE MESSAGE FROM RON PAUL Cheryl Thomson
Follow me closely now. When someone is kidnapped, and they are being closely watched by their captors, they TRY to get the word out. At first, to an onlooker, it doesn’t make sense what they say or do. But then, maybe, someone understands the person is in trouble and is crying out for help. Thanks to JEFF RENSE, if for nothing else, pointing out the ANOMALY of Ron Paul quoting Trotsky, whose demented brain fomented the Russian Revolution of 1917. Ron Paul would normally NEVER quote Trotsky to encourage his followers. The Revolution of Dr. Paul is not a “revolution” which sends millions to the Gulag or deliberately starves farmers in the Ukraine. GET THE PICTURE? Ron Paul is letting us know, in the only way he can, that he has been forced out. He has been threatened, and he has been elbowed out of the race by THUGS. Think-Think-Think-Think! It is so important now that we face this Government Mafia and tell America. WE ARE UNDER SIEGE!
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P.S. to J:
My 3 previous warroom posts yesterday were (oldest placed first):
#1
IMHO - DR. PAUL WAS THREATENED
Since the coup d’etat on November 22, 1963, America has been an illusion. Now is the time for every supporter of Ron Paul to put aside media-fed fear of conspiracy theories once and for all, because a Conspiracy, with a capital “C”, has now removed our champion. Any serious study of history will prove that Conspiracies, with a capital “C”, have placed kings on the throne, and pulled them down again, since the human race began. After he killed his brother Abel, Cain started gathering supporters around him.
Many people who have dared to tell the truth have been murdered in this country. Some of them, including a former Congressman and a former Governor, are in prison today. They are political prisoners, framed by a regime which has corrupted the court system. As for whistleblowers, they live in their own special hell, in prison or out. We may never know the truth about the criminal pressure that was put on Dr. Paul. It may only come out 30 years from now. But today we need to draw a line in the sand.
Do not let Dr. Paul go silent into that deep night of American amnesia. ”HE DID NOT WANT TO DIE” - RON PAUL - That should be our new sign, our new slogan, our new standard. Tell America WHY we have no leaders, except the Janus-headed FASCISTS/COMMUNISTS of both political parties. Dr. Paul is standing there, alone in the Roman Coliseum. We are in the stands. What will we do now? ROAR!!!!!!!
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GOVT PAYS AGENTS FOR ON-LINE COMMENTS
How do you recognize these people? Well, first off, they immediately label anyone with an opinion different from that of the sheeple as a “disinfo agent”. An honest, open-minded person would never be so quick with the knife. But, truly, on Alex Jones’ program this week, it was discussed, and taken as ‘a given,’ that there are people who literally are paid by the hour to post accusations and stop reasonable discussion on internet forums like this one.That said, let us consider that there are people working in ‘private industry’ as part of the InfraGard (sp?) program, which is all over the net today. There is already a network of informers in place, in schools, offices, churches, utility companies, everywhere. Alex Jones has documented this idea in an earlier video production.
To consider that Dr. Ron Paul may have received a tangible threat, not just a generalized menace as a Presidential candidate, is not off the table. Kucinich’s brother is dead. Kucinich is not running any longer, either. Dr. Paul has children and grandchildren whom he loves. He also, at the age of 72, would not welcome the treatment this country gives political prisoners, if he were framed by some corrupt prosecutor and hireling judge of the Justice Department. Yes, as submitted earlier on this board, Dr. Paul is standing alone in the Roman Coliseum. We are in the stands. Instead of denying there are lions roaring behind the gates, ready to tear him to pieces if he continues an all-out Presidential race, I believe we have to face the ugliness that our nation has become… a nation which is run by a government mafia.
MUSCULED OUT... IT PERSONALLY FEELS BETTER THAN RON PAUL BEING A DEEP COVER OPERATIVE, BUT IF HE WAS MUSCLED OUT, THE PROSPECTS OF PEACEFUL CHANGE WENT OUT THE WINDOW FOR GOOD.
9-11 happens once in umpteen years, thanks to the bumbling idiocy of the enemy and his minions. They haven’t been able to pull off an encore lately, have they? But political blackmail and the threatened destruction of good people is really an everyday ‘terror event’.Yes, it’s time to speak the truth - and ROAR!!!!
HE DIDN’T WANT TO DIE - RON PAUL - the slogan for Monday and beyond.
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#3
PARAPHRASING DR. PAUL'S WORDS
A number of articles on various websites, as well as comments on this board, are skating on thin ice by paraphrasing Dr. Paul’s statement of February 8, often out of context. Please consider carefully what you are being told and for what reasons.Dr. Paul has said what he has said: (Quote) Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties — just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will re main a Republican.I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen.In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. (Unquote)
Dr. Paul will continue to fight “FOR OUR IDEAS” (paragraphs 1 & 3). But is there a single Republican candidate who will implement any of those ideas? No, I don’t believe there is. Do you know of someone? On the other hand, putting party differences aside, because parties are meaningless now, an elder whistleblower named Daniel Ellsberg, who stopped another fabricated war that destroyed millions of lives 40 years ago, is at the link below in a 2-part video interview… CALLING FOR A MASS NON-VIOLENT MOVEMENT AGAINST EMPIRE AND TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020408A.shtml
Re: IS RON PAUL A RINGER?
Give me a break moron. You need to lay off the bong every now and then and maybe you will think more clearly.
I CAN'T AFFORD POT, EVEN IF I WANTED IT DUDE. BESIDES, THE QUESTION HAD TO BE RAISED... WERE YOU GOING TO ASK?
Re: IS RON PAUL A RINGER?
RON PAUL IS NOT ALLOWED TO USE ANY PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN MONEY ON HIS CONGRESSIONAL RUN FOR OFFICE. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW.
Re: IS RON PAUL A RINGER?
I know many who wanted to believe otherwise, myself included but never was able to buy into the 'revolution hype' anyway, just thought that I'd point out the anagram for Ron Paul...It's... Our Plan. Our meaning TPTB.
Keep up the fantastic work, as a lurker here, your posts are the ones I look for in particular.
Spaz
THANKS. I DONT PUT MUCH STOCK IN ANAGRAMS. ALL WE CAN DO IS TAKE THE IDEALS WE'RE FIGHTING FOR AND MOVE ON.
Re: RON PAUL FALLING BACK TO KEEPING HIS CONGR....
HELLO...Ron Paul is kicking some serious butt in the spokane caucas right now and in washington state...he is leading everyone! no name or email if posted...thanks
HE STILL LOST. PERHAPS WASHINGTON WAS A GIMMIE, A LAME ATTEMPT TO EASE SUSPICION THAT THE ENTIRE ELECTION PROCESS WAS FUCKING RIGGED.
Re: IS RON PAUL A RINGER?
In response to your article:
1. In the picture it was his right hand not his left that was held up (contrary to the statement "A signal that is particularly ominous when made with the left hand-and Ron Paul did flash that hand signal with his left hand" I have noticed that he talks a lot with his hands and there is movement of the digits of his hands sometimes in an awkward way.
THE IL CORNUTO CAN BE SLOPPILY MADE AND STILL HAVE MEANING... MAYBE RON PAUL WAS SO EXCITED HE MADE THE GESTURE LIKE A 16 YEAR OLD AT A ROCK CONCERT-NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY.
2. With a level playing field perhaps a third party run would work. BUT it's a stacked deck running against the corrupt electoral process with their rigged machines and dishonest officials.
THAT'S WHY IT ALL HAS TO BE ROLLED BACK FROM THE LOCAL LEVEL ON UPWARD-THAT IN MY OPINION WAS THIS CAMPAIGN'S GREATEST WEAKNESS. I TRIED TO WARN...
3. What his campaign has done is to wake people up to what is really going on in the mainstream media and in the voting system. Paul is the catalyst for individuals to take it one step further within their own sphere of influence to wake others up-and yes run for public office and voice the issues they have learned about.
SO WHAT DO WE DO? RUN FOR LOCAL OFFICE, BUILD A REAL POLITICAL MACHINE TO STOP THE VOTE FRAUD-AND ALL THE OTHER TYRANNY OF THE BEAST WHILE LOCAL GOV. IS ACCOUNTABLE.
4. So many people of Good Will from all parts of the political spectrum have connected with each other who would not have done so without that catalyst. That is a formidable force because they are coming from the heart-and have gotten off the fence.
MY THEORY ABOUT RON PAUL BEING A RINGER WAS THAT HE'D LOSE AND CRUSH THE TIDE OF FREEDOM. HE'LL ONLY SUCCEED IF WE JUST GO BACK TO POSTING ON WEBSITES AND OILING OUR GUNS RIGHT UP TO THE RAIDS BY MCCAIN, OBAMA OR CLINTON.
5. It's not over til it's over-and he has had formidable odds against him. Who knows what will happen between now and the Convention. People would do well to focus on what they can do rather than what Dr. Paul hasn't done. After all, those who supported him all want a future where you (and the rest of the world) are not living under draconian rule. The worst thing people can do is fight among themselves and lose sight of what is important. There is too much at stake.
WHY WE HAVE TO NOW STAGE EMERGENCY CAMPAIGNS TO LIBERATE TOWN AND CITY GOVERNMENTS FROM COAST TO COAST-BUT A EMERGENCY EDUCATION PROGRAM'S GOING TO BE NEEDED FIRST... NOT ANOTHER RON PAUL BLIMP.
Re: IS RON PAUL A RINGER?
I have been deeply disappointed with this campaign. Just when it seemed that people were beginning to wake up to the nature of the criminals who govern us, a white hope appeared. There were two actually, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucenic - both seemingly honest men. Neither with a snowball's chance in hell of being elected. The good sheep suckered for it -- big time. In the teeth of the obvious conclusion that America is not a democracy but is rather a company store the good people started howling at me to support Ron Paul, contribute dollars, etc.. They fell for the con -- hook, line and sinker. If you recognize that we live in a company store you can understand that as in all corporations the CEO serves at the pleasure of the board of directors, not at the pleasure of the customers. However, it is of paramount importance that the suckers believe that they have the power to determine the course of the empire. They do not. I submit that the historical evidence is unmistak eable. Paul and Kucenic do not need to be ringers. Their role is the same whether they are or not: to clothe the illusion that ours is a government founded on the consent of the governed. Any support for any candidate is evidence that the citizen still supports the fundamental illusion and in so doing legitimates the tyranny under which we live. I believe that ALL the candidates, including both Paul and Kucenic, understood a month ago that Hillary Clinton has been chosen to be our next CEO and that the entire presidential campaign is a very expensive theatrical event designed to gull the public into voting -- as if it mattered.
YOU'RE PROBABLY THE MOST ACCURATE POSTING HERE.
IT'S WHY WE HAVE TO TAKE OVER THE COMPANY STORE.
I SEE WHAT I HAVE TO WRITE ABOUT NEXT-A MORE DETAILED ARTICLE ABOUT WINNING LOCAL ELECTIONS AND EDUCATING A WILLFULLY IGNORANT PEOPLE.
ANY IDEALS, AGENTS, PLEASE POST BELOW. OR E-MAIL.
J. Croft

2012 update-another election, another Ron Paul sellout-with his bucktooth inbred son Rand.

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