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- This affair is increasingly showing signs of a deliberate symbolic sacrifice-a sacrifice of Freedom. First off, why did Loughner, a onetime fan of Rep. Gifford, shoot her? His YouTube site went up in October, 2010 yet has Gifford as a subscriber.
Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
1-9-11Why Is Gifford Subscribed To Loughner's YouTube?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1316755/pg1Rep. Gabrielle Giffords
http://www.youtube.com/user/giffords2The 'Classit...' subscription link on the bottom left of
Giffords page goes to Jared Lee Loughner
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10- And THEN there's the overall change in Jared Loughner... peaceable lefty pot smoker becomes assassin?
Exclusive: Jared Loughner Radically Changed Before Alleged Shooting, Friend Says
Longtime Friend of Suspected Gunman: 'He Was a Good Person... I Don't Know What the Hell Happened to Him'
Jan. 9, 2011
"He was a good person that just somehow changed so much," former classmate and friend Tong Shan told ABC News in an exclusive interview. "I don't know what the hell happened to him."
When she heard news reports of Loughner's arrest in connection with the deadly attack, she said, "I was shocked, but I believed it was him."
According to court documents released today, authorities discovered a safe in Loughner's home with a thank you letter from Giffords for attending a Congress on Your Corner event in 2007 -- the same kind of event Loughner allegedly assaulted Saturday. Another envelope said "I planned ahead," "My assassination" and "Giffords" and bore what appears to be Loughner's signature, the documents said.
Shan said she became friends with Loughner the day the two graduated from high school and also had class together at Pima Community College in 2007. She said the they would hang out often after class but lost touch after the semester ended until they reconnected in the summer of 2010 when, Shan said, Loughner acted radically different.
"I don't know what might have caused him to change, but from the way he was talking to me [online]... you can see. It was just questions and questions and random, weird questions that didn't go together," she said. "He wanted to know everything... He would just trip out.
"I don't know why it didn't jump out at me, like, 'Hey, something's wrong."
Shan last spoke to Loughner in October, after he was suspended and dropped out of school and before he purchased a semi-automatic handgun from a gunshop in Tucson. But she said while Loughner was "anti-government," he was never violent and never mentioned plans to buy a gun.
When he was suspended from Pima Community College, the school sent a letter to Loughner's parents stating that if Loughner wished to return to the school, he would have to "obtain a mental health clearance indicating, in the opinion of a mental health professional, his presence at the College does not present a danger to himself or others," the school said in a statement.
The school said Loughner had as many as five run-ins with campus police for "classroom and library disruptions," and was suspended after college police discovered a YouTube video apparently created by Loughner in which he claimed the college is "illegal." Rather than return to school, Loughner dropped out, the statement said.
One Pima Community College student, who had a poetry class with Loughner later in his college career, said he would often act "wildly inappropriate."
"One day [Loughner] started making comments about terrorism and laughing about killing the baby," classmate Don Coorough told ABC News, referring to a discussion about abortions. "The rest of us were looking at him in shock ... I thought this young man was troubled."
Another classmate, Lydian Ali, recalled the incident as well.
"A girl had written a poem about an abortion. It was very emotional and she was teary eyed and he said something about strapping a bomb to the fetus and making a baby bomber," Ali said.
rest here: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-lee-loughner-suspected-gabrielle-giffords-shooter-school/story?id=12575278
And here's a hell of a capper: one of the people shot dead was a girl born on 9/11... THAT 9/11.
I find it harder and harder to believe this was all horrifically tragic coincidence...
Girl Killed in Arizona Shooting Spree Was Born on 9/11, Loved Being Symbol of Nation's Hope
Christina-Taylor Green's Dad: 'Keep Your Friends and Family Close'
Christina-Taylor Green, 9, was excited about going to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' informal town hall event this weekend. She started becoming interested in politics during the last presidential campaign."She had all kinds of patriotic little pins and what not and then she was on her way to being very political and very interested in government ...," her mother, Roxanna Green, said.
Christina-Taylor was a straight-A student. The "9/11 baby" sang on the church choir and was best friends with her older brother.
She had just been elected class president at Mesa Verde Elementary School and had planned to start a club at her school to help less fortunate classmates. It was that civic-mindedness that led her to a Safeway supermarket in Tucson Saturday morning.
Christina-Taylor "talked about getting all the parties to come together so we could live in a better country," her mother said Sunday. "She was going to Giffords' event to ask questions about how she could help and to learn more about politics in our country."
Her promise of a bright future in public service was snuffed out when she and five other people were shot and killed by a man who police say went to the venue to kill Giffords, 40. The congresswoman remains in serious condition after being shot in the head. Fourteen other people were wounded.
Among the dead are a federal judge and a Giffords aide. Christina-Taylor was shot once in the chest.
The alleged shooter, 22-year-old Jared Loughner, has been charged with multiple counts of murder and attempted murder.
Born in Tragedy
"It's very ironic, and it says something about society when she comes in to the world on 9/11 and at 9 years old she leaves it this terrible day, but we wouldn't take back any of the nine years we had with her," her father, John Green, said.Said her mother: "She had a great morning, she got up early ... and was talking about the event, and how excited she was. She was very mature for her age."
Christina-Taylor liked to sing and dance, and loved sports. She was the only girl on her Little League team, which wasn't surprising, considering that baseball is the family business.
'The Bobcat'
Her father works for the Los Angeles Dodgers and her grandfather, Dallas Green, managed the Philadelphia Phillies. He led them to the World Series in 1980.Christina-Taylor was a tireless debater, and very strong-willed.
"She was tenacious ... We nicknamed her the bobcat," her father said in an interview with "Good Morning America" anchor George Stephanopoulos. "She'd give a little snarl when she didn't like something."
Her parents described their daughter as a selfless girl.
"She was vibrant, she truly just wanted to be helpful in the community and help others and just get involved," her mother said. "She always wanted to get involved."
Indeed, shortly before she was killed, she had cleaned out her room.
"She put all these toys and clothes and shoes in various bags and she couldn't wait to go give them away to someone who was less fortunate ... she was strong, she was brave, she was fearless, but she also had a kind heart and she was sweet," her mother said.
The kind-hearted girl was very close to her 11-year-old brother, Dallas.
Dallas was supposed to have attended the congresswoman's event Saturday, but he had karate practice.
Dallas has Asperger's syndrome, and his sister took care of him in her spare time.
"He's doing pretty good right now, but I worry about, I worry about him as he realizes it's more permanent," he said, speaking of his son's reaction to Christina-Taylor's death.
Mom: 'She Got Robbed'
Despite the pain of losing her, John Green said he wouldn't take back any of the time he had with his daughter.She was born on 9/11, and was featured in a book about children born on that date. It was called "Faces of Hope."
She held that message close to her heart, and was proud to have been a 9/11 baby, her mother said. She loved wearing red, white and blue, loved the Fourth of July and thought of 9/11 as a special holiday.
"She was proud of that, she was proud of being one of the faces of hope, because she didn't really look at 9/11 as a tragedy like the rest of us did, she looked at it as an opportunity for change, for hope ...," Roxanna Green said.
"She was an amazing little girl and she got robbed of all the wonderful things that she could have done," her mother added. "Not only for her family and friends and her community, but for her country. We don't know what she would have gone on to do."
Her father has advice for others:
"I think the one thing I learned from this is keep your friends and family close because I don't think we could get through this without everybody's support, and I think maybe this fellow who did all the shooting, maybe if he had a little more of that, this wouldn't have happened."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/giffords-tucson-shooting-christina-taylor-green-born-911/story?id=12578816
Rep. Carol McCarthy is going quickdraw on new gun control legislation. There's also a proposal to make an 'internet ID', which will stifle Free Speech-either because people will fear the consequence of voicing dissent or because they will go through the consequence of voicing dissent with a 'rendition me' sign taped to them as they operate on obsolete notions of there actually still being a First Amendment.
Yes it was a miracle Rep. Giffords survived a head shot, but the evidence is quickly mounting that this shooting is Obama's Reichstag Fire. The question now is, do we let these bastards crassly take advantage of this opportunity to kill the 1st and the 2nd Amendment? Free Speech is the line they cannot cross, must not cross. Because beyond that is war.
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