Tuesday, May 29, 2012

THE BLACK HEART OF JEWISH RACISM

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/chilul-hashem-from-the-pulpit

Racists are everywhere.

Black racists, white racists, muslim racists, asian racists... jewish racists:
  1. Ofcourse
    Medium Size Shadchan
    There's a Shul in Boro Park, whose Rov spoke on Yom Tov about how Goyim will clean our shoes after Moshiach comes, and other such lowly tasks, with Goyim caretakers listening closely.
    I was thinking these statements, made in English, were not much worse than other racist remarks heard regularly from non-Jewish preachers, and criticized by us.
    I walked home sickened.
    On a similar vein, I was thinking that if G-d wants us to rejoice in the humiliation of non Jews, then after Yetzias Mitzraim, after the Mitzriim caused us much pain and degradation, we were nevertheless scolded by Hashem "Maasei Yodai Tovlim Bayom v'Atem Omrim Shira, teaching us how we have to relate to Maasei Hashem, other nations.
    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Helpful
    Joseph
    The Rov shlita is correct! And the goyim will do so willingly and happily, so even they will WANT to do all that to serve G-d.
    I agree it might have been better to say the drosha in yiddish. But unfortunately too many of us aren't fluent in it. Whether it was still worthwhile relating in English, is another shaila.
    But if you felt it was a c"h, how is repeating it on a public website which has many more hundreds plus goyish readers than the couple of goyish handymen in a small shul, less so?
    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. coffee addict
    Once killed a Troll with his bare hands
    true,
    we have to be careful about our words
    everyone should realize were still in galus
    also everyone is given lips and teeth to not say whatever you think
    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. Imanonov
    Member
    You are 100% right that the Rav should never have said such things. There is absolutely no need to elaborate on what will be after Moshiach's coming and specially here in Golus we have to be extra sensitive to the walls having ears.
    Just one correction. We were not scolded as our Shirah was allowed and probably even required. It were the Malochim who also wanted to sing Shirah who were rebuked.
    But that is not relevant to your observation about that Rav
    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Ben Torah
    Joseph
    Being the President's shoe polisher is a royal honor. Being the Prince's doorman is a royal privilege.
    The goyinm will be fighting over which of them gets the royal honor of serving G-d's children in any capacity.
    And the whole entire world will by then acknowledge Klal Yisroel are G-d's children, and everyone will want to help facilitate them serving Hashem in every possible way.
    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. WIY
    Member
    Ofcourse
    "I walked home sickened."
    You should have been "sickened" that you completely missed the boat in what your Rav said. Its as Ben Torah says above, its an honor to serve a prince or a member of royalty.
    Maybe you just dont have enough pride in who you are?
    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. Ben Torah
    Joseph
    Exactly. The correct title for this thread should have been Kiddush Hashem from the pulpit.
    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. coffee addict
    Once killed a Troll with his bare hands
    Being the President's shoe polisher is a royal honor. Being the Prince's doorman is a royal privilege.
    The goyinm will be fighting over which of them gets the royal honor of serving G-d's children in any capacity.
    And the whole entire world will by then acknowledge Klal Yisroel are G-d's children, and everyone will want to help facilitate them serving Hashem in every possible way.
    Exactly. The correct title for this thread should have been Kiddush Hashem from the pulpit.
    it's true that that in the future it will be considered an honor but now it will only stir anomosity
    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. Helpful
    Joseph
    Incorrect. If explained properly, the honor of serving G-d's servants, is wonderful. Besides, we are talking about a post-messiah period, and I don't think goyim are worried about -- or even BELIEVE -- that "future." And additionally, this was said in a shul of yidden on Shabbos/Yom Tov.
    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. Ofcourse
    Medium Size Shadchan
    Folks, put yourselves in others shoes. We dont need to ask for more enemies. I doubt real Gedolim would have been pleased with that Drasha.
    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. Helpful
    Joseph
    I doubt real Gedolim would even hesitate before saying the very same thing.

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