Wednesday, August 24, 2011


First some words for

To everyone else: be smart about this. Not saying no, not saying yes but Dyer made his choice and if you’re going to support him in the way I’m thinking you are as I type this…. realize that ANY out of state characters appearing in Oklahoma or Texas are going to be INSTANTLY pegged and probably approached. They have many tricks to catch you off your guard.
Imagine just how closely they’re scrutinizing the Oklahoma and Texas militias right now… the eye of Mordor is burning a hole through em!
So, don’t look like militia, don’t be seen in a vehicle with out of state plates-especially yours. Attempts to directly contact Dyer will be used to home in on you both. Be aware of that.
Also be aware that they’re crazy focused on Dyer and containing this situation to their advantage. Use that to your advantage.



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Originally posted by Texas Resistance:
“I do not know why she would have been removed from the BOLO,” District Attorney Jason Hicks said Monday.

In a perfect world, the FBI and DA Jason Hicks would be as confused about this case as I am.


Originally posted by Texas Resistance:
With the Sept. 11 anniversary nearing, Swan believes Dyer is also being set up. Known for his skull face half-mask worn in many videos, Dyer has given “the machine” a perfect foil, Swan said.
“What a beautiful setup; what a great strawman they get to set up,” Swan said. “I believe this guy is going to be blamed for something big.”


Onward and upward,

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Oathkeepers steps up to the plate...

Oath Keepers Offers to Assist in Peaceful Resolution of Charles Dyer Situation

As you may know, Charles Dyer, known as "July4patriot" on Youtube, is now the subject of an FBI manhunt after failing to appear for trial in Oklahoma. News reports came in that he may be in the Sealy, Texas area, and now there are news reports stating that Charles Dyer may be in the area of Fort Bend County, Texas. Jay Stang, our Texas Vice President, lives in Sugar Land, which is in Fort Bend County.

Jay met Charles Dyer at the Oath Keepers rally on Lexington Green, April 19, 2009, and they became friends. They also happened to serve in the same unit in the Marine Corps, though not at the same time.
Because Charles Dyer may be in the Houston Texas area, Jay Stang has offered to serve as a go-between to help Charles surrender peacefully, so he can go to trial.

After coordinating with Oath Keepers national President, Stewart Rhodes and with Texas Chapter President, John Shirley ( a current serving Houston PD sergeant), Jay contacted Dyer's attorney, who agreed with the idea, and then contacted the FBI Houston Field Office to let the FBI know that Jay is willing to serve in that capacity, as a go-between.

We don't want to see anyone get hurt - either Charles or peace officers. We think the very safest way for Charles to turn himself in would be to go to a local police department, take off his shirt or even strip down to his skivvies, walk in and turn himself over to the desk sergeant, who is less likely to be amped up and on the trigger when compared to officers involved in the manhunt.

But if Charles Dyer contacts Jay, or if Jay is contacted by law enforcement, he is willing to help bring Charles Dyer in peacefully, whatever the circumstances.

Here is a message from Jay to Charles, in case Charles or someone with him reads this:

I met Charles at Lexington in April of 2009. He and I are friends. We are also fellow Marines and fellow sergeants. I want nothing more than to see a peaceful resolution to this situation, and will serve, if asked, as a go between to facilitate his safe return. I believe he is innocent of all the charges against him. Charles, if you get this message, please turn yourself in to the local police station. My main concern is for your safety.

We here at Oath Keepers don't want to see anyone hurt, and we hope that Charles Dyer will simply turn himself in, and face trial. We think he is innocent of the charges against him, and that he has a very good chance of prevailing at trial.

While Charles Dyer never became a member of Oath Keepers, he attended our April 19, 2009 gathering in Lexington, Massachusetts, and we considered him for the position of Liaison to the United States Marine Corps. Below is our previous statement, by Oath Keepers President Stewart Rhodes, about Charles Dyer and his association with Oath Keepers:

"Charles Dyer never became an actual member of Oath Keepers. I met him when he attended our April 19, 2009 gathering at Lexington, and back then I considered him for a position as our liaison to the Marine Corps, but I decided against that when he made it clear he intended to train and help organize private militias across the country when he got out of the Marines. I considered such plans to be incompatible with the Oath Keepers mission and goals, and certainly incompatible with any leadership position within this org. He understood and agreed with my decision to not have him become officially involved with Oath Keepers. So, he was never a member, and never in any leadership position."

That statement was issued last year to clear up misconceptions about Charles Dyer's relationship with Oath Keepers. And here is a new statement by Stewart Rhodes:

Early on, Charles Dyer supported the mission of Oath Keepers, including encouraging his Youtube audience to attend our gathering on Lexington Green, April 19, 2009. As already noted, he also attended that rally and I spoke to him about the possibility of serving as our national liaison to the Marine Corps once he got out of the Marines. At that time he told me of his intent to train and help establish private militias when he was discharged from the Corps. I let him know that such a course of action would be incompatible with a position within Oath Keepers. He understood. Over the next few months, we kept in touch and I tried to change his mind, since I thought his abilities could be best used in outreach to the current serving, but he would not relent, and we both agreed that it would be best if he did not join Oath Keepers. He went his own way.

As with Jay, I urge Charles to turn himself in and face trial. He has already prevailed in federal court, being found innocent of the federal destructive device possession charges. He also secured a hung jury in the April, 2011 trial on these state felony charges. He obviously has competent legal counsel and he has a very good chance of prevailing at this new trial on the state sexual assault charges, if he will simply turn himself in. It is not too late to do so. Charles, if you read this, please turn yourself in, and go to trial. I know you feel like the authorities are just plain out to get you, but you still have a good chance of winning, and you are making a tragic mistake by not taking that chance. Just walk into a local police department and turn yourself over to the desk sergeant. That is the safest course. Go to trial. - Stewart Rhodes

All readers, please spread this post far and wide, in the hope that Charles, or anyone who is in contact with him, will read it.

Oath Keepers

PS - Additional Personal Statement from Stewart Rhodes:

Speaking as an individual, not as the President of Oath Keepers, I also have this to say:

While it is important to set the record straight about Charles not joining Oath Keepers and taking his own chosen path, I do also want to state that I believe he is innocent of the sexual abuse charges he currently faces. While Charles was still on active duty, back in 2009, he told me he had recently discovered his wife (now his ex-wife) was hanging out with drug addicts in Oklahoma, which greatly upset Charles since he was concerned about his daughter's safety. Charles told me that immediately after he insisted that his estranged wife stop bringing their daughter around people like that, she and her relatives tried to get Charles in trouble with the Marine Corps by outing him as the "masked Marine" on Youtube, calling his command and accusing him of making seditious statements and conduct unbecoming of a service member. That attempt to get him in trouble with his command failed, but it does show a pattern of his ex-wife and her family trying to use the law as a weapon against Charles. As a criminal defense lawyer, I have seen many examples of disgruntled ex-wives using trumped up sexual abuse allegations as the "nuclear option" in custody disputes. I believe that is what happened to Charles. I believe he is completely innocent of the charges against him, and not only in the sense of being innocent until proven guilty, but also in the absolute sense of not having done it. Given what Charles told me about the past behavior of his ex-wife and her family, and after having looked Charles in the eye, I find the sexual abuse allegations ludicrous. - Stewart Rhodes

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I think Deb Swan did a very good job with the media on this one. They tried to twist it a bit, but she got the main part of the message through. If anyone is giving RT interviews, it ought to be her.

The reason Jason Hicks wants her to remain on the "BOLO" is that he wants her to remain on the hitilist, but the feds already went to the catch, release, and monitor phase with her.

It is also a clear demonstration of malicious hostility on the part of the DA toward Dyer and his supporters. Swan has already been taken and held at gunpoint, and that's not good enough for the prick, because she was not shot on the spot, so he wants her to stay on the list so that someone can do it again and he hopes he can "make an example of some people". I have seen this when prosecutors get ticked off, they want the indictments and killings to grow to a bigger proportion.

That said, if someone does a citizens arrest of Mr Dyer, they should be aware that actually handing him over to those who demonstrated the means and willingess to kill him may in turn be considered an illegal act. I would have to look up the local statutes, but there were several laws to that effect ramrodded through most southern legislatures in the early part of the civil rights movement due to the common practice down there of klansmen, posses, and local law enforcement arresting blacks and malcontents and then handing them off to whichever appropriate group for a lynching of one kind or another. Sometimes it was a "legal lynching" in a court, and sometimes just handled on someone's private ranch with a bonfire and beer. Other times, masked men would handle the lynching in a very public place, take pictures hold a party, and then take their masks off to join the party later, with the masks just being a technicality for some of the pictures.

If some non-government groups were to start trolling the areas where he is spotted, it is legally defensible to take him into protective custody and transport him or hold him at a safe location until there are sufficient guarantees out of Oklahoma to ensure his safety and a fair trial, not more threats of jail yard lynchings, isolation cell starvation, or killing him in front of his mother.

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I guess one question to ask is, why did Deborah Swan contact the Lawton Constitution, and not the Duncan Banner or any of the news organizations around the Houston area?

It's possible that she did, of course, and the other news organizations simply chose not to run the story. And if they had no way to verify that she was who she claimed to be, they would probably have good reason not to.

A whole lot of people familiar with this case are just walking around scratching their heads and wondering what the hell is going on. I should know, I'm one of them.

Onward and upward,

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You may be seeing one of these billboards soon:


These will soon be going up in 12 states.


FBI agents in Oklahoma City hope to catch an ex-Marine fugitive through digital billboards.

The FBI, Oklahoma City Division, will launch the digital billboards in 12 states in an effort to find Charles Alan Dyer. The 31-year-old ex-Marine from Duncan is wanted by the FBI for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution.

According the Stephens County Sheriff's Office, Dyer was scheduled to be in court on August 15 on charges he raped a 7-year-old family member. However, he didn't show up for court.

A warrant for his arrest was issued on August 17. According police, they received information Dyer was in the Houston, Texas area. After combing the area in Houston, Dyer was not found.

According to the FBI, Dyer is considered armed and dangerous. It's believed he has several weapons and traveling throughout the southeastern portion of the United States.

Digital billboards with Dyer's picture will be continuously displayed in Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Virginia, Arkansas, North Carolina and South Carolina.

But as the FBI intensifies it's efforts, Dyer's online supporters seem to be doing the same. On the web site for the American Resistance Movement a Houston-based member is threatening to kill FBI agents involved in the hunt for Dyer.

Still agent Simmons says although Charles Dyer has the potential to be dangerous he hasn't proven to be. He was last spotted in Houston on Sunday in the truck of an elderly man who offered to take him to another city.

"He had the opportunity to assault the man and steal his truck to cause harm to him but he didn't," said Agent Simmons. "He got up and left."

Dyer's family says the former marine is simply running for his life.

Dyer's mother gave News 9 a lengthy letter saying the girl Dyer accused of raping denied it happened and Dyer ran because he thought he was suspected of arson.

"We have taught our children a respect and love for this country and a respect for the judicial system ....were we wrong?" she writes.

In a letter Dyer wrote to his family the day he disappeared he said the government is trying to kill him and if he doesn't come home in 90 days he is dead.

A reward of up to $5,000 is offered for any information leading to the arrest of Dyer.

Dyer is described as a white man, 5'10" to 6'0," 175 to 200 pounds, brown hair (shaved) and blue eyes. However, it is believed he may have grown a beard, lost some weight and his head is no longer shaved.

Anyone with information regarding the whereabouts of Charles Alan Dyer should contact police or call the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI. You may remain anonymous.

Read the comments at the end of the article. We're not the only ones who are skeptical of the "official" story.

Onward and upward,

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