Monday, August 22, 2011

8/22 J4P UPDATES: ON THE RUN, SECOND ARSONIST TURNS SELF IN

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Second arrest made in arson fire.


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A second person has been arrested and charged in the fire which destroyed Charles Dyer’s rented home Aug. 12.

Jonathan Scott, 37, was arrested by Stephens County Sheriff’s Office Thursday and appeared before District Judge Joe Enos Friday afternoon. He was charged with second degree arson and a bond of $100,000 was set, along with the requirement he obtain a GPS monitor within one business of his release should he make bail.

On the second degree arson charge, the state requested Scott remain within Stephens County should he be released on bond. He is scheduled to appear at 2:30 p.m. Nov. 9, for a preliminary hearing on the arson charge. When asked if he had anything to say, Scott replied, “I guess not.”

On Monday, Freeman, 34, of Duncan, appeared in court before Judge Carl LaMar and was the first one officially charged with second degree arson.

LaMar offered her two options on bond — one of $50,000 cash or surety bond and a GPS monitor, and or a lower bond of $10,000 with a GPS monitor and reporting to the District Attorney’s office. Freeman opted for the second one.

Freeman remains in the county jail. She is scheduled for a preliminary hearing at 2:30 p.m. Nov. 8 and must have an attorney.

Scott also remains in the county jail.


The Duncan Banner is planning a "complete story and update" in the Sunday edition.

Here is the same story in the Lawton Constitution:


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While Charles Allen Dyer may remain on the run, another man was arrested and charged Friday with burning down his trailer house.

Jonathan J. Scott, 32, Duncan, made his first appearance before a judge in Stephens County District Court for a felony count of second-degree arson. The crime is punishable by up to 25 years imprisonment and/or up to $20,000 fine.

Scott is accused of helping Monica Joy Freeman, 34, burn down Dyer's home at 5819 Hope Road near Bray the morning of April 12. Freeman was charged Monday with the same count and remains in custody in the Stephens County Jail, court records show.

Scott originally told investigators that when he confronted Freeman she told Scott to get out of the house "because she had set it on fire ... to get even with Charles Dyers (sic)" by using a lighter, according to the affidavit filed against Freeman. Scott said she left and he went inside where he found the fire and put it out, according to the affidavit. Scott also told investigators that later that morning, while he stayed at Freeman's house, that she left for a short time before returning, the affidavit states.

During an interview Wednesday with detectives from the Stephens County Sheriff's Department, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and State Fire Marshal Investigator Judah G. Sheppard, Scott made "unsolicited and spontaneous utterances" of being at the mobile home the morning of the fire, according to the affidavit. Scott said he'd gone with Freeman to Dyer's trailer twice and while there, Freeman looked for gasoline to burn down the trailer, Sheppard said. While he stayed in the living room, Scott said Freeman went into the south-end bedroom and set the bed on fire, according to the affidavit, and he set the living room curtains on fire before the two left the burning trailer.

Scott remains in Stephens County Jail in lieu of a $100,000 bond with the stipulation that he have a GPS device affixed to his ankle within 24 hours of release and that he be confined to Stephens County, court records show. His preliminary hearing is scheduled for 2:30 p.m. Nov. 9.

Meanwhile, Dyer, 31, remains on the run with a nationwide manhunt under way to bring him in to face trial for felony charges of child sexual abuse and concealing stolen property as well as a federal charge of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution warrant. Dyer's retrial on the charges was slated to begin Monday morning but he was a no show, prompting law enforcement to begin a high-intensity hunt. A mistrial was declared following trial in April after the jury failed to reach a unanimous verdict. Dyer also was acquitted on a federal charge of possessing a grenade launcher.

Dyer, a former Marine sergeant, has become well known through the American militia movement for his videos posted on YouTube where he speaks under the pseudonym "July4Patriot." Also claiming connection to the Oath Keepers, a bloc of the tea party movement, Dyer has built an online following of supporters who see his cause as a case of government oppression and conspiracy bearing down on a patriot at least three Facebook pages are devoted to his plight. Dyer's YouTube channel had been shut down became viewable again Wednesday. Many of Dyer's videos outline his defense, along with proclamations of innocence and allegations of conspiracy amongst law enforcement agencies, the Department of Health and Services and his ex-wife.


So, while being questioned by investigators by three different agencies, Scott made "unsolicited and spontaneous utterances" admitting to the arson fire? What's wrong with this picture?

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Man arrested for burning fugitive’s trailer in Duncan
BY SCOTT RAINS
STAFF WRITER SRAINS@LAWTON-CONSTITUTION.COM
Saturday August 20, 2011

While Charles Allen Dyer may remain on the run, another man was arrested and charged Friday with burning down his trailer house.
Jonathan J. Scott, 32, Duncan, made his first appearance before a judge in Stephens County District Court for a felony count of second-degree arson. The crime is punishable by up to 25 years imprisonment and/or up to $20,000 fine.
Scott is accused of helping Monica Joy Freeman, 34, burn down Dyer’s home at 5819 Hope Road near Bray the morning of April 12. Freeman was charged Monday with the same count and remains in custody in the Stephens County Jail, court records show.
Scott originally told investigators that when he confronted Freeman she told Scott to get out of the house “because she had set it on fire ... to get even with Charles Dyers (sic)” by using a lighter, according to the affidavit filed against Freeman. Scott said she left and he went inside where he found the fire and put it out, according to the affidavit. Scott also told investigators that later that morning, while he stayed at Freeman’s house, that she left for a short time before returning, the affidavit states.
During an interview Wednesday with detectives from the Stephens County Sheriff’s Department, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and State Fire Marshal Investigator Judah G. Sheppard, Scott made “unsolicited and spontaneous utterances” of being at the mobile home the morning of the fire, according to the affidavit. Scott said he’d gone with Freeman to Dyer’s trailer twice and while there, Freeman looked for gasoline to burn down the trailer, Sheppard said. While he stayed in the living room, Scott said Freeman went into the south-end bedroom and set the bed on fire, according to the affidavit, and he set the living room curtains on fire before the two left the burning trailer.
Scott remains in Stephens County Jail in lieu of a $100,000 bond with the stipulation that he have a GPS device affixed to his ankle within 24 hours of release and that he be confined to Stephens County, court records show. His preliminary hearing is scheduled for 2:30 p.m. Nov. 9.
Meanwhile, Dyer, 31, remains on the run with a nationwide manhunt under way to bring him in to face trial for felony charges of child sexual abuse and concealing stolen property as well as a federal charge of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution warrant. Dyer’s retrial on the charges was slated to begin Monday morning but he was a no show, prompting law enforcement to begin a highintensity hunt. A mistrial was declared following trial in April after the jury failed to reach a unanimous verdict . Dyer also was acquitted on a federal charge of possessing a grenade launcher.
Dyer, a former Marine sergeant, has become well known through the American militia movement for his videos posted on YouTube where he speaks under the pseudonym “July4Patriot.” Also claiming connection to the Oath Keepers, a bloc of the tea party movement, Dyer has built an online following of supporters who see his cause as a case of government oppression and conspiracy bearing down on a patriot — at least three Facebook pages are devoted to his plight. Dyer’s YouTube channel had been shut down became viewable again Wednesday. Many of Dyer’s videos outline his defense, along with proclamations of innocence and allegations of conspiracy amongst law enforcement agencies, the Department of Health and Services and his ex-wife.
In a statement written Sunday by the fugitive’s mother, Janet Dyer, and issued through his online support network, Dyer claimed he’d had two threats to his life.
“He left on Friday night after this court appearance and told nobody where he was going,” Janet Dyer said. “He was at the end of his ropes.”
District Attorney Jason Hicks has said that Dyer and his supporters’ statements about the evidence offer “a total distortion of the facts in this matter.”
Thursday’s granted federal warrant officially adds the Federal Bureau of Investigation to law enforcement agencies involved in the manhunt, said Stephens County Sheriff Wayne McKinney. Friday’s updated “Be on the lookout” message for law enforcement offered a high tension warning to officers approaching Dyer:
“Dyer may initiate a deadly force encounter with law enforcement on contact.”

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Dyer: Freedom fighter or child molester?
BY SCOTT RAINS
STAFF WRITER SRAINS@LAWTON-CONSTITUTION.COM
Sunday August 21, 2011

To his supporters, Charles Allen Dyer is a patriot fighting for his freedom.
To law enforcement officers, he is a defendant charged with child molestation and fleeing from justice.
Until he faces judgment, any portrait of Dyer paints only as true a perspective as your view.
On Monday, Dyer was set to face a second trial in Stephens County District Court on charges of child sexual abuse and concealing stolen property. Dyer originally was charged with the crimes in January 2010, but a hung jury ended his first round of court with a mistrial in April. He also was acquitted of federal weapons charges in April 2010.
In the past week, law enforcement investigators have kept information close to the vest in the hunt for Dyer. With the addition of a federal warrant for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution, federal agents have joined the nationwide pursuit.
Dyer’s voice was allowed to speak online again last week after his YouTube channel was unblocked — it has been unviewable for a while. Dyer had gained notoriety before and after his initial arrest from videos made under the pseudonym “July4Patriot.” He was often seen wearing his Marine Corps uniform before either an American or Gadsden flag. A series of videos totaling well over an hour were made by Dyer since the end of his April trial to lay out his case.
An online community of supporters also has begun to grow through Facebook . Three pages have gathered a discussion among people devoted to his cause. In a note posted under the title “The story of July4Patriot and the corruption of the system” by Antoniette D. Walker, and posted to the group page “Patriots for Justice in the Case of Charles Dyer,” Dyer offers his side of the story via an October 2010 online question-and-answer exchange. Dyer said the story began with allegations made by his ex-wife after he said he was going to fight for custody of their daughter.
“I haven’t lived with my wife and daughter since 2008,” Dyer said. “That day was the first time I ever was charged with anything in my life.”
A search of Dyer’s home on Jan. 12 turned up 40mm grenade launcher. Dyer, 31, is a former Marine who served more than one tour of duty in the Middle East. He’d told investigators he’d received the weapon from a friend who gave it to him while stationed in California with the Marine Corps, according to court documents. Dyer served in the Marines in Iraq; he moved to Marlow after his discharge in 2009. The National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database listed the grenade launcher having been stolen from Fort Irwin, Calif., in 2006. It’s alleged to be one of three that were stolen from the base.
Dyer was charged in federal court with possession of a grenade launcher, but a jury in Oklahoma City acquitted him of the charge in April 2010.
“The weapons charges have nothing to do with the rape charges, other than the fact that they entered my home on a DNA warrant to get evidence against me, which they found none,” Dyer said online. “And while they were there, they saw the grenade launcher. Then the next day without warrant, they decided to come back and remove all of my weapons from my home while I was in jail.”
Dyer said his girlfriend was pressured into consenting a search of the home. Also taken were body armor, ammunition and weapons, a speech and a half-mask that shows the lower jaw of a skull and is the signature appearance of Dyer’s on-screen persona July4Patriot. He said that all but the speech were later returned.
Dyer and his online supporters have posted photographs of the DNA test results online and say the results prove he didn’t molest the then-6-year-old girl; the only evidence, he said, is from the girl.
But District Attorney Jason Hicks said the speculation in online discussion groups about the evidence is “a total distortion of the facts” and that “the piece of evidence that his side conveniently leaves out is (the alleged victim’s) testimony, along with that of a medical doctor.”
Dyer has alleged that collusion between law enforcement agencies behind the child rape charge to make it easier for him “to disappear.”
After fire burned his trailer to ash the morning of Aug. 12, Dyer spent the day with investigators at the courthouse, and the next day at a hearing to discuss continuing or moving the trial location, according to a statement issued by his mother, Jan.
“When he left our home, he said he would call as soon as the hearing was over,” she said. “He was at the end of his ropes.”
Dyer disappeared after the motions were dismissed. He was last reported seen Aug. 13. Investigators warn that he could be armed with a pair of rifles — an AK-47 and an AR-15 — as well as a Glock 9mm handgun. In Friday’s “Be on the lookout” dispatch about Dyer, law enforcement were warned: “Dyer may initiate a deadly force encounter with law enforcement on contact.”
A letter from Dyer was turned over to authorities and Dyer’s family by Stephens County Sheriff Wayne McKinney last week. In it, Dyer reportedly said that if he didn’t turn up within 90 days, he should be presumed to be dead. The pronouncement was a far cry from his final statement during the October 2010 online question-and-answer session.
“And I won’t give up,” Dyer said. “They’ll have to kill me or put me in prison to shut me up.”

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In Friday’s “Be on the lookout” dispatch about Dyer, law enforcement were warned: “Dyer may initiate a deadly force encounter with law enforcement on contact.”

In plain English, McKinney just declared open season on Dyer and signed his death warrant. This statement will be used as an excuse to shoot Dyer on sight. They will murder Charles and claim that they had to kill him because he was dangerous and resisted.

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quote:

Originally posted by ConSigCor:

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In Friday’s “Be on the lookout” dispatch about Dyer, law enforcement were warned: “Dyer may initiate a deadly force encounter with law enforcement on contact.”

In plain English, McKinney just declared open season on Dyer and signed his death warrant. This statement will be used as an excuse to shoot Dyer on sight. They will murder Charles and claim that they had to kill him because he was dangerous and resisted.

Agreed. Same as Woodring.

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You have that right ConSigCor and Bladerunner. They know Charles Dyer never molested his little 7 year old daughter but they want him dead because he puts out the best motivational patriotic videos there are on YouTube. See: The Right to Defend Freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zED5PD2dfg

A fried of mine who was there told me that Friday morning at 5am a 30 man SWAT team sealed off the entire neighborhood and raided a rental vacation home in Florida pointing sub-machine guns even at the young children and the women in the home. Terrorizing them they hand cuffed everyone, drug them outside, and questioned them about Charles Dyer while they searched the home.

This was written in the August 18th edition of the Lawton Constitution Newspaper:
"Be On The Lookout - Charles Allen Dyer, 31 stands 6 feet, 185 pounds. Missing since Monday Aug.15. Wanted: Failure to appear for felony trial in the Stephens County District Court on charges of child sexual abuse and receiving stolen property. A federal unlawful flight to avoid prosecution warrant was issued Wednesday, adding the FBI to the manhunt. Officers have been warned to approach Dyer with caution; he could be armed with a pair of assault rifles – an AK-47 and an AR-15 – as well as a Glock 9mm handgun. Dyer has known ties with the American Militia Movement and is a former Marine with weapons training…"

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Friday morning at 5am a 30 man SWAT team sealed off the entire neighborhood and raided a rental vacation home in Florida pointing sub-machine guns even at the at the young children and women in the home. They hand cuffed everyone, drug them outside, and questioned them about Charles Dyer terrorizing them.

Huh???

Charles did not terrorize those people, the swat team did.

These Gestapo swat teams are heavily armed and dangerous. They trespass, break and enter, assault and murder innocent people on a daily basis. If they are seen in your neighborhood they should be treated with extreme prejudice.


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I know excuse me please. Sorry I was typing to fast. I corrected it. I'd better quit drinking too much coffee.

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quote:

Originally posted by ConSigCor:

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In Friday’s “Be on the lookout” dispatch about Dyer, law enforcement were warned: “Dyer may initiate a deadly force encounter with law enforcement on contact.”

In plain English, McKinney just declared open season on Dyer and signed his death warrant. This statement will be used as an excuse to shoot Dyer on sight. They will murder Charles and claim that they had to kill him because he was dangerous and resisted.

Yes they will murder him and they will all get away with it and no one will do anything to get him the justice that all men deserve. Yes even though if he is Murdered justice would come a little late and be posthumous it would be better then no justice at all, but we all know that there will be No Justice For Sgt, Dyer posthumous or otherwise.

There is another issue other then Sgt. Dyer, and that is what will happen and what will we do the next time and we should all know that there will be a next time.

How many of us will be taken out before we finally fight back, or is the truth, that we will never fight back and we will all be taken out one at a time until there are no more of us left and when everyone who loves freedom is gone who or what will be left.

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I am not going to get into murder predictions on this, but this does all have the appearance of the rules of engagement being "relaxed" in relation to Mr Dyer.

I am really curious as to how they are claiming to verify that he is armed when in fact the rules of almost every pretrial release/bail situation are similar to probation or parole; IE, no firearms allowed, as gun confiscation is nearly always a part of the felony indictment (hence the question on every 4473 since the 1968 gun law went into effect).

That sort of thing usually means the subject signs a statement accounting for every gun they ever bought on a 4473, sometimes the guns are given to a family member as bait to try and get that person for allowing access to the guns, and then the home gets "checked" a few times by pretrial services officers or the bail agent to make sure there are no firearms present just as a condition of the court allowing residence there during pretrial.

So them saying the "know" he had an M4 and AK and handgun is something that needs to be looked at, as Dyer has not been off of a felony indictment of one kind or another during the last several years.

I am really looking at this now from the standpoint that Dyer has just cause to receive political asylum status in any one of several European countries.

If Medvedev is real about wanting to have a dialogue with "American Dissidents" then I think we now have an eligible test case. Unfortunately for Dyer, this means permanent exile to Russia, but that sure as hell beats going to an American prison. Getting laid in St Petersburg is a hell of a lot better than being laid on some prison yard or "shot while resisting arrest".
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quote:

Originally posted by Sniper_762X51:

There is another issue other then Sgt. Dyer, and that is what will happen and what will we do the next time and we should all know that there will be a next time.

How many of us will be taken out before we finally fight back, or is the truth, that we will never fight back and we will all be taken out one at a time until there are no more of us left and when everyone who loves freedom is gone who or what will be left.


I couldn't agree more.

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quote:

Originally posted by Breacher:

If Medvedev is real about wanting to have a dialogue with "American Dissidents" then I think we now have an eligible test case. Unfortunately for Dyer, this means permanent exile to Russia, but that sure as hell beats going to an American prison. Getting laid in St Petersburg is a hell of a lot better than being laid on some prison yard or "shot while resisting arrest".


Agreed.
Is there any known contact?
it is no longer the old Soviet Union and they might even provide some support in the event we should ever need it.

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For the record, I still think we can pull off a legal win in this situation, but it is going to be tricky.

Thing is, we are on a roll here. I think a few of the old 60s radicals were able to pull off courtroom wins even after being on the run for a while.

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quote:

Originally posted by Breacher:
For the record, I still think we can pull off a legal win in this situation, but it is going to be tricky.

Thing is, we are on a roll here. I think a few of the old 60s radicals were able to pull off courtroom wins even after being on the run for a while.


Different situation.

30-40 years from now? Perhaps.

Tomorrow? Not a chance.

Even if you get him off they will just keep hounding him and coming up with new charges.
Or they will just assassinate him and use a throw down.

His getting to a nonextradition country is his best bet. He really has only two other alternatives and they both effectively end his life.

Being a fugitive from "justice" there is not a chance in Hell they will ever let him out of custody again. None.

It is also clear that they have every intention of having him killed in prison if he returns.

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Sgt.Dyer sighted in TX.
http://www.news9.com/story/15304802/armed-and-dangerous-duncan-ex-marine-wanted-by-fbi-for-avoiding-prosecution

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I still say the "patriot" movement should initiate a "nationwide manhunt" and take Charles into "protective custody" before the gestapo has a chance to murder him and steal his family's farm. Charles should be placed out of sight and out of their reach. Club fed should be forced to deal with our terms and conditions. It would have to be clearly understood by all that ANY repercussions on their part would result in the implementation of the final solution...S.A.D.

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quote:

Originally posted by ConSigCor:
I still say the "patriot" movement should initiate a "nationwide manhunt" and take Charles into "protective custody" before the gestapo has a chance to murder him and steal his family's farm. Charles should be placed out of sight and out of their reach. Club fed should be forced to deal with our terms and conditions. It would have to be clearly understood by all that ANY repercussions on their part would result in the implementation of the final solution...S.A.D.


I concur!...Deja grand Juries must be held on the courthouse lawn if need be...

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Originally posted by ConSigCor:
I still say the "patriot" movement should initiate a "nationwide manhunt" and take Charles into "protective custody" before the gestapo has a chance to murder him and steal his family's farm. Charles should be placed out of sight and out of their reach. Club fed should be forced to deal with our terms and conditions. It would have to be clearly understood by all that ANY repercussions on their part would result in the implementation of the final solution...S.A.D.


Are there enough of us to find him?

To protect him?

Anyplace they know he is at will fall under seige. Enough resources to hold out?

All things to consider.

One would think some alternatives would have been provided him before the fact if he were in fact to go on the run and if the militia had enough sense to provide some alternatives to him.
If he has actually been seen, it is reasonable to assume that none of the above occurred.

Getting a message or a contact to him now is going to be exceedingly difficult.

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Originally posted by drjarhead:


Even if you get him off they will just keep hounding him and coming up with new charges.
Or they will just assassinate him and use a throw down.

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As my expert witness Len Savage put it years ago, the feds are not looking for justice, its all politics. They will keep throwing plates of spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. If nothing from the first plate sticks, they will throw a second one, and a third, until they find a way to get what they want, the law be damned.

As for a throw down these days they don't seem to bother tiring to cover up the murders. Again, Woodring is a perfect example. They didn’t bother placing any weapons on or around what was left of him. Just made the claim that they were in fear of their lives regardless of the lack of evidence. Most of the public will buy it because of the propaganda put out by the corporate government about the victim at an earlier date. It’s one of the reasons for the fabrications they put out.

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Looks like they're looking for him in and around Sealy, Texas now. I'm still surprised this story hasn't attracted the national media yet.

Onward and upward,
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A legal win?  I honestly don't know how you'd pull that off unless the feds suddenly came down with ethics.

If Dyer can make it to a Russian Consulate or if there's a possibility of hooking up with friendlies... well, I don't know how anyone could approach him-anyone outside of people he'd trust, or are trustworthy.

In either event, unless someone already has Dyer in their circles I'd advise against attempting to initiate contact to help unless approached by the man as you'd likely lead the enemy to him and he's got enough problems E&E without attempting to screen potential friendlies/enemies.

There IS something we can do: hold a Dyerpalooza and save his family farm.  This means everyone network out to anyone and everyone in the movement for a day of Patriots across America coming together on the internet and at meeting places to raise money to pay off the bond on the farm and the Dyer family's legal bills.  Would September 10th be out of line?

We'd also need a common internet page, or channel to coordinate the event, linking up with the various sites of the movement, meetings and such.

Or, hold it at the Dyer farm but I have concerns about the Stephens County government...

Can we make THIS happen?

3 comments:

Dedicated_Dad said...

J,

Who are these mokes who burned his house?

What's their relationship to him?

Let me know if I can help with the fund-raising... You'll have my email address already...

J. Croft said...

There's a address you can contribute directly to the Dyer Family, and a chip-in.

I'll be posting shortly on what we need.

Anonymous said...

If the militia movement is worth a damn then this is the time to prove it. I have warned folks before that the patriot movement better get its head in the game and get the connections and logistics worked out to handle these very things. This man needs to be contacted and ran underground. He needs a safe house and a place to lay low. Oath-keepers are giving him the path to turn himself in but I say screw that. As you all know he will NOT get a fair trial. Better to go to ground and fight them on ground of your choosing.
Find him and get him to safety here. If tree hugging hippies can hid from the government for 40 years then a USMC surely should be able to.
My suggestion is to organize this on the .onion network via TOR. Anonymous connections and the ability to hide contributions and information provided.


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